"John Smith" wrote in message
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What planet are you from? It's all been seen before.
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It ain't been seen 'til I see it!

AMEN!!!!!

"It's all been seen before" is just bunkum. My PSK31 cables are new to me.
My EME dish is new to me.

Fortunately, nobody gets a lock on first-time discoveries in this hobby. My
pulling a QSO out of the noise today is just as much a thrill for me as it
is for another half-million or so hams when they do it.

I'm working on my first HF antenna. Hand-built for 10M, it will be -- and
on the air as soon as I'm legal.

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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I'm working on my first HF antenna. Hand-built for 10M, it will be -- and
on the air as soon as I'm legal.


Speaking of legal, when I'm doing low-power antenna tests for matching,
what's the protocol for ID'ing? My antenna experience is limited to FM,
where I easily ID through the mike with one hand while twiddling the SWR
meter with the other.

However, if I steady-key on HF to measure VSWR, I obviously can't ID; if I
use voice, the needle's bouncing.

Does the HF community tolerate occasional non-ID'ed transmissions for
essential testing????

TKS

"Sal"

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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I'm working on my first HF antenna. Hand-built for 10M, it will be --
and
on the air as soon as I'm legal.


Speaking of legal, when I'm doing low-power antenna tests for matching,
what's the protocol for ID'ing? My antenna experience is limited to FM,
where I easily ID through the mike with one hand while twiddling the SWR
meter with the other.

However, if I steady-key on HF to measure VSWR, I obviously can't ID; if I
use voice, the needle's bouncing.

Does the HF community tolerate occasional non-ID'ed transmissions for
essential testing????

TKS

"Sal"

It's not a matter of what we tolerate. It is a matter of FCC rules. Even a
test transmission (including tune-up) must conclude with an ID. So you
tune, then ID.

Dee, N8UZE

"Dee Flint" wrote in message
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"Sal M. Onella"

Does the HF community tolerate occasional non-ID'ed transmissions for
essential testing????

TKS

"Sal"

It's not a matter of what we tolerate. It is a matter of FCC rules. Even
a
test transmission (including tune-up) must conclude with an ID. So you
tune, then ID.

Got it. Thanks to all who responded.

From FCC Part 97

(b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere
in this Part, an amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way
communications:


(1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station;
§97.119 Station identification.
(a) Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand station,
must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end
of each communication, and at least every ten minutes during a
communication, for the purpose of clearly making the source of the
transmissions from the station known to those receiving the transmissions.

So you have 10 minutes before u need ID

"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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"Sal M. Onella" wrote in message
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I'm working on my first HF antenna. Hand-built for 10M, it will be --
and
on the air as soon as I'm legal.


Speaking of legal, when I'm doing low-power antenna tests for matching,
what's the protocol for ID'ing? My antenna experience is limited to FM,
where I easily ID through the mike with one hand while twiddling the SWR
meter with the other.

However, if I steady-key on HF to measure VSWR, I obviously can't ID; if I
use voice, the needle's bouncing.

Does the HF community tolerate occasional non-ID'ed transmissions for
essential testing????

TKS

"Sal"

"So you have 10 minutes before u need ID "

This is true, but I always begin and end a tuning or test transmission
with "N3OX TESTING" in fast CW.

It will make those who hear your 1W loud and clear happier. They'll
know someone is running tests instead of just sitting on their key.

Dan

Agree -- tis good practice but not required by the FCC Rules -- CL

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"So you have 10 minutes before u need ID "

This is true, but I always begin and end a tuning or test transmission
with "N3OX TESTING" in fast CW.

It will make those who hear your 1W loud and clear happier. They'll
know someone is running tests instead of just sitting on their key.

Dan