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What happens to a cage (fat) dipole with trap and extension
I have been looking at the properties of a cage or fat dipole. This is
efficient and has a wide bandwidth. But what happens if a trap is added to then with an extension to cover an additional lower band. Will the high Q trap significantly reduce the efectiveness of the cage dipole in efficiency and bandwidth? I was thinking in terms of a cage dipole-trap-cage extension. Any thoughts? 73 de Dick G4BBH |
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What happens to a cage (fat) dipole with trap and extension
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:26:48 -0000, "ferrymanr"
wrote: I have been looking at the properties of a cage or fat dipole. This is efficient and has a wide bandwidth. But what happens if a trap is added Hi Dick, It would seem to be a contradiction in sizes (the coil and cap have to be much smaller), but then when I think of cage antennas, I see: http://home.comcast.net/~kb7qhc/ante.../Cage/cage.htm The point of the cage is to not need adornments. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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What happens to a cage (fat) dipole with trap and extension
" I have been looking at the properties of a cage or fat dipole. This is efficient and has a wide bandwidth. But what happens if a trap is added Hi Dick, It would seem to be a contradiction in sizes (the coil and cap have to be much smaller), but then when I think of cage antennas, I see: http://home.comcast.net/~kb7qhc/ante.../Cage/cage.htm The point of the cage is to not need adornments. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Since the elements of a cage dipole usually come to a point at both ends (the feed and the far end for attachment of a support) I can see no problem in physically adding a trap. Above the trap cut-off frequency the extensions will have little effect on the performance. At lower frequencies where you will effectively have a dipole element with a fat portion and then a thinner bit at the end , it should work ok but you may need some modelling to see exactly what happens to the bandwidth. 73 Jeff |
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What happens to a cage (fat) dipole with trap and extension
"Jeff" wrote in message . com... Since the elements of a cage dipole usually come to a point at both ends (the feed and the far end for attachment of a support) I can see no problem in physically adding a trap. Above the trap cut-off frequency the extensions will have little effect on the performance. At lower frequencies where you will effectively have a dipole element with a fat portion and then a thinner bit at the end , it should work ok but you may need some modelling to see exactly what happens to the bandwidth. 73 Jeff I have modelled it in MMANA (my cage is similar to 'fat dipole2.maa') and it looks feasible. The cage resonant frequency drops a tad but the extension after the trap, modelled with a 3mm wire, does resonant nicely. This allows me to add an extra band somewhat below the normal low limit of the cage dipole. My modelling still shows a reasonable bandwidth for the main cage dipole but I suspect the trap will have some complex effects above and below resonance. I will have to try it to see how much it affects it will have. It will be easy to clip a trap to each end of the main dipole for the tests. 73 de Dick G4BBH |
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