wrote:
EM waves depart when energy is applied, not particles.

Quantum Electrodynamics tells us that EM waves consist
of photons which are particles.
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73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
EM waves depart when energy is applied, not particles.

Quantum Electrodynamics tells us that EM waves consist
of photons which are particles.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

So, which is the real question:

1) Why do waves act like particles?

--OR--

2) Why do particles act like waves?

JS
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http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com

On 9 Mar, 09:39, Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
EM waves depart when energy is applied, not particles.

Quantum Electrodynamics tells us that EM waves consist
of photons which are particles.
--
73, Cecil, w5dxp.com

Good for you Cecil, that is why I reffered earlier to alpha and beta
instead of getting people involved in Quantum theory.
Remember you are talking to old people who are retired or have been
laid off
because they haven't kept up with change. I suspect the electron
aurgument
will now take its place at the front inline with the education of old.
Same way with regard to free particles residing on the surface of a
conductor,
that possibly was not understood in the dark ages either.
The mode of discussion here is either they don't understand it or try
to be a bit more assertive by saying it is garbage as a means of
regaining their former statue of old but obviously that is not going
to happen , sooner or later they will have to accept that.
Art
Art

John Smith I wrote:
So, which is the real question:

How can a single photon go through two slits
at the same time and interfere with itself
on the other side?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
wrote:
EM waves depart when energy is applied, not particles.

Quantum Electrodynamics tells us that EM waves consist
of photons which are particles.

Like other quanta the photon has both wave and particle
properties, but has zero rest mass and is not a particle like
an electron


--
Jim Pennino

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art wrote:
Same way with regard to free particles residing on the surface of a
conductor,

Are you referring to free electrons?
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

On 9 Mar, 10:28, Cecil Moore wrote:
art wrote:
Same way with regard to free particles residing on the surface of a
conductor,

Are you referring to free electrons?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

No I would not presume that I know what they consist of. I have taken
the aproach of descibing them in the "free" aproach for clarity
Wife has just been taken to hospital so I must leave you to defend
yourself for a while
Cheers
Art XG

wrote:

...
properties, but has zero rest mass and is not a particle like
an electron



Really? I am going to have to see that one to believe it (not saying it
is incorrect though), a "something" with no mass--kinda like a "ghost
particle!"

JS
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http://assemblywizard.tekcities.com

John Smith I wrote:
wrote:

...
properties, but has zero rest mass and is not a particle like
an electron



Really? I am going to have to see that one to believe it (not saying it
is incorrect though), a "something" with no mass--kinda like a "ghost
particle!"

You see it every day; it is called light.

Photons are not particles because they have no rest mass; particles
by definition do.

If photons had mass, they couldn't travel at the speed of light.

Or didn't you know that nothing with mass can travel at the speed of
light?

--
Jim Pennino

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John Smith I wrote:
Really? I am going to have to see that one to believe it (not saying it
is incorrect though), a "something" with no mass--kinda like a "ghost
particle!"

It's old hat knowledge, John, and one of the reasons
why standing wave energy doesn't just stand there or
just "slosh around" as one guru asserted. If a photon
is slowed to zero velocity, its mass vanishes and
it ceases to be detectable. A photon's mass derives
from its speed-of-light velocity, i.e. it is 100%
kinetic. Any particle with a resting mass would necessarily
have infinite mass at the speed of light. Therefore, any
particle with a finite mass at the speed of light must
necessarily have a zero rest mass.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com