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Old February 21st 07, 08:03 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Some time ago the many pseudo expert on antennas on this
thread PooHoo.d the idea that Static fields and electromechanical
fields
were connected. Any body can go thru the archives of a few weeks ago
to find out who they were. Some have also argued with me over skin
depth
but after the two latest "deep" threads that I posted I realise that
there are
more "pseudo" experts than I thought, Some obviously never got out of
high
school. Pretty much everybody scorned the idea that antennas could be
made better than the yagi because all was known let alone a completely
new
line of designs which were not made up of parassitic elements let
alone of
mainly resonant elements in cluster form for choice of polarity. I was
called
a lot of bad names plus all the put up or shut up by people who
wouldn't
understand it if I did supply the information.A day or so ago I
supplied all
the information albiet in an unprofessional way, on the web for all
to rebut,
especially the so called experts on this newsgroup, but where did they
hide
themselves when the evidence of Gaussian antenna connections was
placed
in front of them?
Where are the experts who refuted the idea of a revelutionary design
series?
On one of the threads I gave the web page such that anybody could
swipe
at me or apologise only to find that this group is not about antennas
it is about
having arguements for arguments sake. Anybody can go to Google and
type
the above thread title in to see the background to which I have been
criticised but the
fact is that if it isnt already in a book then it can't be true, at
least for amateurs.
Gentlemen I am sharing with the amateur community my findings on a new
breed of antennas but it seems that antenna interest has taken a
downswing
when at this point in time there is so much interest in other
polarities to what
the amateurs do not use. As I stated earlier I placed the page on
this newsgroup
\and other readers can get to it if they use this thread title in
google but if guitar
music is what you are looking for then by all means stick around for
somebody
to argue with or get in touch with AUSTRALIA to set up a water
experiment
And my all means bury your head in the sand regarding the connection
between
electrostatic fields and electromagnetic fields and yes David you can
start up
your diatribe all over again on static fields having now enunciated
that the
Corriolis force is ficticious.. Regards less of what you say yabout
what you
do in life and the antenna work you have accomplished in the company
of high
antenna experts as well as the gaurdian of an antenna testing range
you are NOT an expert.
Regards
Art Unwin

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art wrote:
Some time ago the many pseudo expert on antennas on this
thread PooHoo.d the idea that Static fields and electromechanical
fields
were connected. . .


What's an "electromechanical field"? An electrical field acted upon by
the Coriolis effect?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL
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Old February 21st 07, 09:15 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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On 21 Feb, 12:03, "art" wrote:
Some time ago the many pseudo expert on antennas on this
thread PooHoo.d the idea that Static fields and electromechanical
fields
were connected. Any body can go thru the archives of a few weeks ago
to find out who they were. Some have also argued with me over skin
depth
but after the two latest "deep" threads that I posted I realise that
there are
more "pseudo" experts than I thought, Some obviously never got out of
high
school. Pretty much everybody scorned the idea that antennas could be
made better than the yagi because all was known let alone a completely
new
line of designs which were not made up of parassitic elements let
alone of
mainly resonant elements in cluster form for choice of polarity. I was
called
a lot of bad names plus all the put up or shut up by people who
wouldn't
understand it if I did supply the information.A day or so ago I
supplied all
the information albiet in an unprofessional way, on the web for all
to rebut,
especially the so called experts on this newsgroup, but where did they
hide
themselves when the evidence of Gaussian antenna connections was
placed
in front of them?
Where are the experts who refuted the idea of a revelutionary design
series?
On one of the threads I gave the web page such that anybody could
swipe
at me or apologise only to find that this group is not about antennas
it is about
having arguements for arguments sake. Anybody can go to Google and
type
the above thread title in to see the background to which I have been
criticised but the
fact is that if it isnt already in a book then it can't be true, at
least for amateurs.
Gentlemen I am sharing with the amateur community my findings on a new
breed of antennas but it seems that antenna interest has taken a
downswing
when at this point in time there is so much interest in other
polarities to what
the amateurs do not use. As I stated earlier I placed the page on
this newsgroup
\and other readers can get to it if they use this thread title in
google but if guitar
music is what you are looking for then by all means stick around for
somebody
to argue with or get in touch with AUSTRALIA to set up a water
experiment
And my all means bury your head in the sand regarding the connection
between
electrostatic fields and electromagnetic fields and yes David you can
start up
your diatribe all over again on static fields having now enunciated
that the
Corriolis force is ficticious.. Regards less of what you say yabout
what you
do in life and the antenna work you have accomplished in the company
of high
antenna experts as well as the gaurdian of an antenna testing range
you are NOT an expert.
Regards
Art Unwin


Roy that is the sort of posting I would expect from the likes of you.
When everything comes to light you are going to look a real fool,
possibly in your next lifetime to
Always looking for something to smart off about rather than putting on
a thinking cap. And I would remind you about skin depth where you are
screwed up. When you see 1/e in a formula
then you should immediately think of half life which is skin depth in
this case, Remember you cried about me using the term "decay". Waffle
all you want about your Eznec on this newsgroup but you are still
operating in the dark ages in the search of money. You sure would get
upset if people smarted off on your Eznec thread about your
advertising methods and or achievements . True I make errors when I
type
but I would rather you save your comments to those in a wheel chair or
with other afflictions to raise a laugh to get attention. When you get
to the after life there will be many who have been cured that you will
have to answer to face to face

Art
Art

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art wrote:
On 21 Feb, 12:03, "art" wrote:
Some time ago the many pseudo expert on antennas on this
thread PooHoo.d the idea that Static fields and electromechanical
fields
were connected. Any body can go thru the archives of a few weeks ago
to find out who they were. Some have also argued with me over skin
depth
but after the two latest "deep" threads that I posted I realise that
there are
more "pseudo" experts than I thought, Some obviously never got out of
high
school. Pretty much everybody scorned the idea that antennas could be
made better than the yagi because all was known let alone a completely
new
line of designs which were not made up of parassitic elements let
alone of
mainly resonant elements in cluster form for choice of polarity. I was
called
a lot of bad names plus all the put up or shut up by people who
wouldn't
understand it if I did supply the information.A day or so ago I
supplied all
the information albiet in an unprofessional way, on the web for all
to rebut,
especially the so called experts on this newsgroup, but where did they
hide
themselves when the evidence of Gaussian antenna connections was
placed
in front of them?
Where are the experts who refuted the idea of a revelutionary design
series?
On one of the threads I gave the web page such that anybody could
swipe
at me or apologise only to find that this group is not about antennas
it is about
having arguements for arguments sake. Anybody can go to Google and
type
the above thread title in to see the background to which I have been
criticised but the
fact is that if it isnt already in a book then it can't be true, at
least for amateurs.
Gentlemen I am sharing with the amateur community my findings on a new
breed of antennas but it seems that antenna interest has taken a
downswing
when at this point in time there is so much interest in other
polarities to what
the amateurs do not use. As I stated earlier I placed the page on
this newsgroup
\and other readers can get to it if they use this thread title in
google but if guitar
music is what you are looking for then by all means stick around for
somebody
to argue with or get in touch with AUSTRALIA to set up a water
experiment
And my all means bury your head in the sand regarding the connection
between
electrostatic fields and electromagnetic fields and yes David you can
start up
your diatribe all over again on static fields having now enunciated
that the
Corriolis force is ficticious.. Regards less of what you say yabout
what you
do in life and the antenna work you have accomplished in the company
of high
antenna experts as well as the gaurdian of an antenna testing range
you are NOT an expert.
Regards
Art Unwin


Roy that is the sort of posting I would expect from the likes of you.
When everything comes to light you are going to look a real fool,
possibly in your next lifetime to
Always looking for something to smart off about rather than putting on
a thinking cap. And I would remind you about skin depth where you are
screwed up. When you see 1/e in a formula
then you should immediately think of half life which is skin depth in
this case, Remember you cried about me using the term "decay". Waffle
all you want about your Eznec on this newsgroup but you are still
operating in the dark ages in the search of money. You sure would get
upset if people smarted off on your Eznec thread about your
advertising methods and or achievements . True I make errors when I
type
but I would rather you save your comments to those in a wheel chair or
with other afflictions to raise a laugh to get attention. When you get
to the after life there will be many who have been cured that you will
have to answer to face to face


Hey Art,

I'm no expert, but I can hardly read your thread. Wrapping problems,
and apparently only one paragraph per long, long post makes for very
difficult to read stuff.

Perhaps if you opened things up a bit it might help the dummies like me?

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -
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Art,

I looked at your webpage at

http://home.insightbb.com/~aunwin/index.htm

I don't understand how you claim that all three elements in your
cluster are resonant given that the drive impedance of two of them is
highly reactive.

Your antenna appears to be a fairly mediocre weird yagi.

You can continue to write science fiction about how radiation is
caused by particles ejected from the conducting material and their
curling action about the element, or whatever it is you're talking
about. Have fun. Sorry if my pseudo-self is going to keep pseudo-
thinking that your antenna is more or less a pseudo-two-element yagi.

Dan



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On Feb 21, 2:03 pm, "art" wrote:
Any body can go thru the archives of a few weeks ago
to find out who they were.
Regards
Art Unwin


My cat has mittens.
MK


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Art,

I looked at your webpage at

http://home.insightbb.com/~aunwin/index.htm

I don't understand how you claim that all three elements in your
cluster are resonant given that the drive impedance of two of them is
highly reactive.

Your antenna appears to be a fairly mediocre weird yagi.

You can continue to write science fiction about how radiation is
caused by particles ejected from the conducting material and their
curling action about the element, or whatever it is you're talking
about. Have fun. Sorry if my pseudo-self is going to keep pseudo-
thinking that your antenna is more or less a pseudo-two-element yagi.

Dan


The structure, as shown on the web site, has the following parameters:

Gain at 10 deg. elevation -- 10.2 dBi
F/B ratio -- 5.5 dB
Input impedance -- 126 + j 171.

Ball park guess 2 element beam at the same elevation.
Driven element 28", reflector, 29.5", and element spacing 7".
Elements 0.2" dia. aluminum:

Gain at 10 deg. elevation -- 12.3 dBi
F/B ratio -- 12 dB
Input impedance -- 35 + j 38

All above simulations using NEC above a perfectly conducting ground.

Regards,

Frank


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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:33:40 GMT, "Frank's"
wrote:

Gain at 10 deg. elevation -- 10.2 dBi

Gain at 10 deg. elevation -- 12.3 dBi


Hi Frank,

Consistent with past experience with Art's designs, I threw away
2/3rds of it (OK 2 wires) and got 3 dB more gain. Do we blame Gauss
for the original poor performance? Does this validate Art's concept
of static electromechanical waves?

Art, if this is a typo (electromechanical waves), then how many other
typos inhabit your descriptions that corrupt your truths that come out
so tarnished? If we have to sit through another rendition of Hearts
and Flowers about us kicking cripples, stealing from blind newsboys,
defrauding widows, and getting our rewards taken away from us in an
after-life; then maybe you should get a season ticket to the new
moderated group where those soap opera tunes can be sung in their
castrati choir.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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On Feb 21, 2:15 pm, "art" wrote:


Roy that is the sort of posting I would expect from the likes of you.
When everything comes to light you are going to look a real fool,
possibly in your next lifetime...


[snip]

At least Roy is going to wait a while. You on the other hand....

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On 22 Feb, 06:27, "Wes" wrote:
On Feb 21, 2:15 pm, "art" wrote:



Roy that is the sort of posting I would expect from the likes of you.
When everything comes to light you are going to look a real fool,
possibly in your next lifetime...


[snip]

At least Roy is going to wait a while. You on the other hand....


Possibly true as my health is not that good but you never know what
can happen at the next hamfest. I know americans tell the world that
if you are not with us then you are against us
and that shows O so true with this newsgroup. It wasn't that long ago
that you all lined up like lemmings castigating the idea of static
fields and it connection to electomagnetic fields and yes insulting
names flew. You ask to be given stuff as a right and when you succeed
the atmospere gets even worse. I remember about ten years ago that Roy
stated himself as the pervayer of truth with respect to ham radio and
in the following decade many real experts have come and gone because
of intolerance on this newsgroup such there is now just one or two
left and where we lost out on a lot of experience purely because of
Roy and others.
Now you have inrefutable truth laid out in front of you regarding the
Gaussian field which leads to a new breed of antennas especially with
regard to polarities outside the horizontal and vertical polarities
which consumes hams.
The facts are now out with respect to Gaussian antennas and you can't
possibly suppress it by portraying only yourselves as the pervayors of
truth,. Industry desires more compact antennas,
industry demands antennas where fields are variable. Industry demands
antennas where there is purity of polarity and diversity and no amount
of decrying by hams are going to deny this entrance to antenna theory.
I know many take the hint from Roy and a couple of others as to when
to turn it on and many are willing to follow but Gaussian antennas
have arrived and tho the future may not be known Roy's denials of the
validity just doesn't stand up in the world outside this very small
group. You can't halt the advance of science by saying THAT YOU ARE
WITH AMERICA OR AGAINST US by purely diminishing the number of true
experts in this group to make yourself more dominant.Yess I am
vulnerable to many because of poor health but I may yet outlast Roy
in this world that changes so rapidly!
Honis soir que maly pence( Royal Army Ordinance Corp of the U.K)

Art

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