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Tdonaly wrote:
Cecil wrote, Thanks Reg, this one is a keeper. If you made the helix long enough to cause a phase reversal in the current, would the world come to an end? It also doesn't mean anything. Tom, please build a two wavelength long helical antenna, measure the current at various places, and then come back and tell us, with a straight face, that the current phase never goes from positive to negative. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Cecil wrote,
Tdonaly wrote: Cecil wrote, Thanks Reg, this one is a keeper. If you made the helix long enough to cause a phase reversal in the current, would the world come to an end? It also doesn't mean anything. Tom, please build a two wavelength long helical antenna, measure the current at various places, and then come back and tell us, with a straight face, that the current phase never goes from positive to negative. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp It won't work, Cecil. I quit arguing when you quit understanding. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH |
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Tdonaly wrote:
It won't work, Cecil. I quit arguing when you quit understanding. And you would rather leave me ignorant than contribute anything to my understanding. I certainly understand that. I have an engineering degree and my IQ, according to MENSA, is in the upper 1/2 of one percent. That you cannot post anything that I can understand seems to be your problem, not mine. But don't feel alone. My Southern Baptist Preacher has the identical problem. His religion interferes with my understanding. Your math model religion interferes with my understanding in exactly the same way. Hint: If your math model doesn't predict reality, it ain't worth much. The original assertion was that the current into a coil is identical to the current out of a coil. Never mind that the current has to travel faster than the speed of light to make that true. Every measurement has proven that there is a current taper through the coil. Yet, you maintain the original assertion. There's something seriously wrong with a mind that maintains concepts that have been proven wrong by measurements. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:01:58 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote: And you would rather leave me ignorant than contribute anything to my understanding. This reminds me of a time when I challenged our Chief Bosun's mate with: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." The Chief always had the last word with logic like yours: "You hold his head under water and suck on his ass." 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
wrote: And you would rather leave me ignorant than contribute anything to my understanding. This reminds me of a time when I challenged our Chief Bosun's mate with: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." Richard, is one iota of scientific proof too much to ask or should I accept it on faith like you? When I want hand-waving, I go to church. I expect more than math-model-based religion out of this newsgroup. Maybe I expect too much. You guys remind me of the people in one of the Planet of the Apes movies who worshiped Tha Bomb. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:14:18 -0600, Cecil Moore
wrote: Richard, is one iota of scientific proof too much to ask or should I accept it on faith like you? Depends: is your head under water, or are you drawing a vacuum? |
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Richard:
[snip] This reminds me of a time when I challenged our Chief Bosun's mate with: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." The Chief always had the last word with logic like yours: "You hold his head under water and suck on his ass." 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC [snip] Heh, heh... memorable. I love it... but.... Are you sure he didn't also use the "f" word? It's my recollection that Chief Bosun's Mates do focus on the ass a lot... but not without a few well chosen "f" word interjections. Too many years ago to remember, I had the con on a tin can along side a carrier at sea readying to pass a sick matloes over a bosun's chair. I was holding the con "real steady" in heavy seas +/- 1/2 degree or so, grinning to myself from ear to ear at how well I was doing, the Chief Bosun's Mate ruined my pride and reverie when he hollered down the blow tube, "Sailor if you don't keep this fuxxxxg tin can on fuxxxxg course I'll come down this fuxxxxg ladder and stuff that fuxxxxg wheel up your 'ass' spoke by fuxxxxg spoke." Now that's Chief Bosun's Mate talk! :-) -- Peter K1PO Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL |
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On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:02:56 GMT, "Peter O. Brackett"
wrote: It's my recollection that Chief Bosun's Mates do focus on the ass a lot... but not without a few well chosen "f" word interjections. Hi Peter, It would put this thread to shame to offer that when I was in Nixon's Canoe Club, we could use that word as an adjective; adverb; verb (transitive or intransitive); noun; relative pronoun; in a prepositional phrase; as an indirect/direct object; as a (get this) connective; subjective complement; often as a nominative absolute phrase; as a gerund; and quite often to split an infinitive. That hardly allowed for the full scope of usage and there was never any doubt about meaning, application, intent, or subject that so attends "current." in these rather drab and limp wrist tea parties called debate. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC, ET1 |
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Cecil wrote,
Tdonaly wrote: It won't work, Cecil. I quit arguing when you quit understanding. And you would rather leave me ignorant than contribute anything to my understanding. I certainly understand that. I have an engineering degree and my IQ, according to MENSA, is in the upper 1/2 of one percent. That you cannot post anything that I can understand seems to be your problem, not mine. But don't feel alone. My Southern Baptist Preacher has the identical problem. His religion interferes with my understanding. Your math model religion interferes with my understanding in exactly the same way. Hint: If your math model doesn't predict reality, it ain't worth much. The original assertion was that the current into a coil is identical to the current out of a coil. Never mind that the current has to travel faster than the speed of light to make that true. Every measurement has proven that there is a current taper through the coil. Yet, you maintain the original assertion. There's something seriously wrong with a mind that maintains concepts that have been proven wrong by measurements. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp Boy, you sure have accused me of a lot of things I never knew I did. I don't maintain any of that stuff. I don't even care. Furthermore, I don't have any better idea than you do what the current distribution in any individual coil is. I suppose it depends on its environment and its physical description, but beyond that it means nothing to me. What I was railing at you about was something entirely different: I simply don't believe your theories explain what you say they do, and unless you can give better evidence than you have, I don't see why anyone else should believe them either. Period. That's it. The end. Kaput. Finis. 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH (P.S. You euchred me into responding this time but it won't happen again.) |
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Tdonaly wrote:
I simply don't believe your theories explain what you say they do, and unless you can give better evidence than you have, I don't see why anyone else should believe them either. I don't recall stating any theories except quotes from Kraus's book. Would you be so kind as to re-state one of them for me so we can discuss it intelligently? I don't recall you offering anything except personal opinions and ad hominem attacks. I have stated that there is a current taper in every real world mobile loading coil and measurements by the very people who disagreed proved that I was right. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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