On 28 Apr, 18:06, Richard Clark wrote:
On 28 Apr 2007 17:20:40 -0700, art wrote:





On 28 Apr, 13:14, Richard Clark wrote:
On 28 Apr 2007 11:18:14 -0700, art wrote:

AO program by Brian Beazely which is
Minninec based but Brian
has not supported that program in years. Based on that info I suspect
that could be classed now as freeware so a Google search may well
supply a user that is willing to provide a copy.

This would be a clear case of piracy and the violation of copyright
held by the owner. Any attempts of others to provide "free" or "paid"
copies are violating that law.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Nothing is "clear" with respect to copyright.

I am quite sure that Brian Beazely "clearly" marked his product with
the necessary marks of intellectual property ownership.

If a library owns a copy and then makes another copy for patrons use

That never happens in any reputable Library. They have absolutely no
interest in supporting piracy.

you again get
into another murky area because that involves a exception area that is
not clear in substance.

There is nothing murky about copying Brian Beazely's product and
distributing it. You are not going to get a pirated copy from any
Library.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC- Hide quoted text -

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Libraries have a specific exemption with respect to copyright laws and
most libraries now have a CD library for its patrons. Same goes for
enterprises that lease movies e.t.c..
Same goes for educational facilities and their faculty and pupils and
as far as educational facilities go, even a ham radio club would
qualify for that!. With all that being said I am not advocating piracy
per se, I was ENQUIRING (not advocating) on the legitimacy of copying
when a product is abandoned which in the case of a patent is done when
a holder does not pay the regular maintenance fee required.and that
include software patents.
On the other side of the coin one must remember we are talking about
federal law which is an entity to itself in what laws it decides it
wants to honor as well as the finances to do the job.. From a morality
point of view piracy is wrong, from a reality point of view if a law
cannot be enforced then it is a bad law because it is an example of
laws that are seen that can be defied. I agree that Brians absence is
a huge loss for the ham community but I am not fully aware of all the
reasons tho I have heard rumours, but I remind you again I was
enquiring about a properties standing in LAW when it was not only
abandoned but also not for sale, plus the underlying principles being
of the freeware type i.e. supplied by the Government free of charge.
Art