Cecil Moore wrote:
...
Standing wave current cannot be used to make valid
measurements about current amplitude "drops" across
or phase shifts through a loading coil. One must
instead figure out a way to get a traveling wave
flowing through the coil. Then the phase shift
becomes perfectly obvious.
...

So, "something" roughly related to [speed-of-light -
velocity-factor-of-conductor = phase-shift] should be at play (since
photons are speed of light and the rf wave is limited by the VF) ???

Regards,
JS

John Smith I wrote:
So, "something" roughly related to [speed-of-light -
velocity-factor-of-conductor = phase-shift] should be at play (since
photons are speed of light and the rf wave is limited by the VF) ???

Coherent EM waves traveling in opposite directions can
certainly confuse the observer. In order to remain un-
confused, one EM wave traveling in one direction should
be the wave used for measurements. Otherwise intelligent
people have been completely fooled by the two waves traveling
in opposite directions. The resultant wave is an illusion
and therefore the observations based on standing waves are
likewise illusions.

How can a standing wave, whose amplitude is dependent
upon the the phases of the two traveling waves, be
used to determine anything about amplitude? How can
the phase, which is essentially fixed and constant
at zero degrees, be used to determine phase delay?

Standing waves have faked the gurus out of their
jockey straps.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
...
How can a standing wave, whose amplitude is dependent
upon the the phases of the two traveling waves, be
used to determine anything about amplitude? How can
the phase, which is essentially fixed and constant
at zero degrees, be used to determine phase delay?

Standing waves have faked the gurus out of their
jockey straps.


Cecil:

Just using logic, an "interference wave" (standing wave) would seem to
be a poor choice, alright.

But then, my knowledge on this subject makes me dependent upon others, I
am listening and attempting to get a grasp on things ... sorry if my
ignorance can be taxing at times ... frankly, even to attempt to discern
between forward-reflected-standing for the purposes you propose has
never entered my mind!

Give me a bit, as with others here, this all is taking a bit of time to
get ones' mind wrapped around. You have given this quite a bit of
thought, I am just beginning down that path ... perhaps when I learn
enough, I will agree or disagree.

However, you have already given me a bit to play with, such as
attempting to "repel photons" from transversing windings. LOL!

Regards,
JS

John Smith I wrote:
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However, you have already given me a bit to play with, such as
attempting to "repel photons" from transversing windings. LOL!
...

Geesh, everyone must be slow today, sure I would get jumped about using
transversing instead of the proper use of traversing ...

JS