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Electron ratio to form a radiation field
What is the ratio of magnetic electrons emitted from a radiator
compared with with the number of electrons emmitted due to current flow? What is the combination ratio required of both types of electrons to form a radiation field? Regards Art |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
"art" wrote in message oups.com... What is the ratio of magnetic electrons emitted from a radiator compared with with the number of electrons emmitted due to current flow? What is the combination ratio required of both types of electrons to form a radiation field? Regards Art what is a 'magnetic electron'?? and why would electrons be emmitted due to current flow? |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
art wrote:
What is the ratio of magnetic electrons emitted from a radiator compared with with the number of electrons emmitted due to current flow? Art, emitted electrons are corona discharges. What is emitted from an antenna is primarily photons. Each photon has both electric and magnetic properties and the ratio is 377 ohms in the far field. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
On Thu, 10 May 2007 00:23:40 GMT, "Dave" wrote:
"art" wrote in message roups.com... What is the ratio of magnetic electrons emitted from a radiator compared with with the number of electrons emmitted due to current flow? What is the combination ratio required of both types of electrons to form a radiation field? Regards Art what is a 'magnetic electron'?? and why would electrons be emmitted due to current flow? Hi Dave, All electrons are magnetic. All electrons flow in current. Electrons emmitted (sic) would first have to be accelerated by a potential that exceeds the work function of the metal they inhabit, and then avoid the resistance to their movement found outside that metal. This is called induction current. Emission, except in a vacuum, is considered to be a nuisance as it causes havoc in the vicinity (such as superheating air to luminescence). There would be electrons of emission only in the first few micrometers from the conductor (not sure why that would be of any particular advantage). Of course, all such terms and their usages are conventional. Their usage and application in this thread probably have meanings that deviate wildly from the norms of accepted usage. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
On 9 May, 18:49, Cecil Moore wrote:
art wrote: I am looking for the ratio of particals emitted. To the best of my knowledge, all coherent photons are identical. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com If they are all identical how do they manage to avoid combining energy prior to escaping from the enclosed surface? I noted that you said both had electric and magnetic properties but I could not rationaly deduce that they were the same. You also stated that the electrons were corona discharges which is new to me. If this is all basic physics shouldn't everybody be in agreement with respect to the transition to a magnetic field. Tom states I have a problem with the basics so if there is uniformity in the resposes I would be happy to realigne my thoughts but he supplied no input of value only a personal opinion. Regards Art |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
On 9 May, 18:44, Tom Ring wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: art wrote: What is the ratio of magnetic electrons emitted from a radiator compared with with the number of electrons emmitted due to current flow? Art, emitted electrons are corona discharges. What is emitted from an antenna is primarily photons. Each photon has both electric and magnetic properties and the ratio is 377 ohms in the far field. Art does seem to have some serious problems with basic physics. Not too surprising. I guess after that remark he'll now characterize me as a guru. ;) tom K0TAR As you have stated I seem to have serious problems. If that is the case the remedy is to familiarise myself to what everybody calls basic physics. By asking questions I am seaching for a correction to my so called erronious views. Is that a no no on this newsgroup? Since it is a matter of basics the thread should be extremely short as there will be no disagreement ! I could not classify you as a guru if you are not willing to put a rod into the ground by giving a response that would prove or not prove to be in agreement with all. Art |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
art wrote:
I noted that you said both had electric and magnetic properties but I could not rationaly deduce that they were the same. Balanis has a pretty good treatment of the subject but I don't have that book with me. You also stated that the electrons were corona discharges which is new to me. Instead of becoming energetic enough to leave the conductor, electrons normally shed their excess energy in the form of photons. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
On 9 May, 20:23, Cecil Moore wrote:
art wrote: I noted that you said both had electric and magnetic properties but I could not rationaly deduce that they were the same. Balanis has a pretty good treatment of the subject but I don't have that book with me. You also stated that the electrons were corona discharges which is new to me. Instead of becoming energetic enough to leave the conductor, electrons normally shed their excess energy in the form of photons. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com Cecil, I think that we are all in agreement now on the legitimacy of adding a time metric to Gauss's equation unless it was a quirk of luck that two programs came to agreement. We also know that for a dc current flow we cannot produce a radiating field because we must have two vectors created by a time varying field. In other words the particles must be different in some way as like particals cannot collide or combine to form a radiative field. I believe we also know that any combination of particals must occur after release from the gravitational field and where I could go along with your corona description and the interface impedance of 377 ohms. From this analysis the particles could well have the same properties as you state but of different polarities which prevents initial collisions or a joining mechanism. If this conforms with known basic physics then one should see the importance of the ratio of emitted particles. If this does not conform to known basic figures I would like to know why .Then my thinking becomes in conformance with the elite in this group such that sniping and derision can come to an end. Gauss gave me the overall picture of the formation of radiation as a completed jigsaw puzzle picture but I am looking for knoweledge of the individual connecting parts for a more detailed analysis which is accepted by those familiar with basic physics to bring myself inline with those knoweledgable in the arts. All I need is some answers to my question that evokes agreement from all and the thread gets closure. If it is basic physics it should not be that hard for the experts to explain. Cecil you are familiar with the many aspects of radiation thus you have a great opportunity to supply the required info that cannot be refuted by others .,So sieze the opportunity where others are shying away. Best regards Art Art |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
Art Unwin wrote:
"What is the combination ratio required of both types of electrons to form a radiation field?" A company called Tigertek, Inc. answers questions such as this. Art can search on "amateur radio fact of the day from Tigertek" and their pages should appear. Click on "Facts of the Day, Software and Forums". Select "November 26, and see: "Electromagnetic E/H Ratio". Click and find: "----at a distance of several wavelengths or more from any type of electromagnetic radiator the ratio of electric to magnetic field strength (E/H) always becomes equal to approximately 377 ohms, which is the approximate electromagnetic impedance of space." Jan 3: Electron Facts July 29: Does Your Antenna Radiate Particles? "----Unlike protons and neutrons, photons have zero rest mass. (Albert Einstein`s special relativity theory predicted that massless particles travel at the speed of light in a vacuum.) Furthermore, unlike protons and neutrons which are composed of smaller particles called quarks that are bound together with massless smaller particles called gluons, photons (and electrons) are elemental particles that are not composed of smaller particles. Transmitting antennas do indeed radiate particles." Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
Electron ratio to form a radiation field
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