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On Sun, 13 May 2007 23:58:59 GMT, "Peter O. Brackett"
wrote: Q1a: Is there any dectectable radiation? With your misspell, I almost read that as delectable. Would certifiably ordinary normal RF spectrum be detectable? It doesn't even have to meet any spectrum limitations (being at either end of the extremes) to make that equivocal, why would DC radiation be any different? However, there are considerations that are specific to the wavelength that in a normal or even extra-normal situation would still offer a simple NO. It would not be detectable for all the same reasons as the pedestrian examples: Q, Energy, and S+N/N. DC suffers tremendously for every criteria. Energy would be well below the FemtoKelvin range. S+N/N would be swamped from any of a number of noise sources. Enough Q would be impossible to obtain to distinguish DC from GigaMeter wavelength AC sources. If not, why then do we all seem to agree that charge acceleration causes radiation? It's an hackneyed cliché meant to sooth Mensa candidates and their sponsors. Q2a: If so, what exactly is the frequency of that radiation? 0 Is this an example of a zero frequency [Or say a very nearly zero, e.g. ~1.0exp(-89) Hz] radio wave? You are being insecure again. [snip] In the steady state at DC electric charges are moving at a constant velocity. You are confusing charge with carrier. [snip] I may be, but that is irelevant to the question, for as you well know... the mere motion of charge, no matter how carried, is all that is germain in the celebrated Maxwell/Heaviside equations of classical electrodynamics. Quite the contrary. A carrier always moves charge, but a charge does not always move a carrier. This is the difference between inductance and capacitance (which most folks, materialists, think resides specifically in the coil or the plate). DC does NOT always involve moving charge or carriers. You defined it yourself, is your insecurity doubting the initial condition? One of the most frequent errors in this group is shifting frames of reference and then trying to convince everyone it isn't a shell game they are trying to pull. [snip] Thus when moving in a straight line at constant velocity there should be no "waves" launched or radiated, no? Well, are you afore it? or against it? [snip] I thought it was obvious, I'll explicitly go on record here... With Maxwell and Heaviside, I believe that electromagnetic waves are radiated into space by the acceleration of charge! Well, there's a brave and bold step forward. Period, end of story! Dubious emphasis. Weren't you already convincing with the first exclamation? [snip] My point here is the assertion of the real existence of DC waves either guided or free! Edison would have beat Tesla to transferring power over the air if that were so. Problem is wavelength, you need infinitely long halfwave antennas - umm, WOW inspiration! That is exactly what Edison had. He DID beat Tesla with transferring DC power over the air when he supplied all his customers with antennas. AND they used guided wave principles. [snip] Phfffttt.. Extremely long dipoles are no problem for those of us who live in the Restaurant at the End of the Universe. My dipole extends from there back to epicenter of The Big Bang! Edison was lucky that his subscriber's dipoles all interfered (physically) with overlapping elements (early linear loading). Tesla's RF work at transmitting power in Colorado Springs proved he was oxygen deprived at that elevation. Bird now sells range slugs that cover the band [1.0E-98Hz - 1.0E-99 Hz]? I didn't say they offered it, I said that you couldn't afford it. The question is said Humpty Dumpty, "What is the physical interpertation of "conjugate match" and "image match" [That's Zo-match for you Zo affecianados!] at DC. How do you obtain an infinite reactance to fulfill conjugation? [snip] Q6: Below what magic frequency, lets call it f(mgc), do radiation and or reflection phenomena stop? A Chebyshev filter might do it. [snip] Now you are being silly, the frequency of ripples in the passband of a Tchebychev filter [measured in cycles per Hz!] is non-linear and irrelevant to the present discussion. The ripples are only in pass-band. Skirt will eventually take care of DC (after-all there is only one frequency to stop). 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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