Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
Get real ... fairy tales are best used to amuse children ...

Consider that the earth is about 4.5 billion years old
while the Milky Way galaxy may be about 12 billion years
old, not much younger than the universe itself. Some early
evolved intelligent life forms could possibly have been
seeding our galaxy for billions of years.

We are also discovering "nanobes" so small (20 nm) that
we never realized that they were alive before now. These
critters contain only about 10 DNA molecules.

http://www.nytimes.com/library/natio...e-nanobes.html

Cecil:

There are many possibilities ...

I am just awestruck (think shock and awe here!) that so many jump on the
"evolution bandwagon"--apparently tossing logic out the window with the
bath water and the baby--even occams' razor is missing. DNA and its'
complexity, yet simplicity, is amazing, (some search this DNA for "Gods
Signature") logic leads me away from viewing it as "just happened."
Mankind appears to serve nature in no meaningful way, yet some maintain
that nature went to extraordinary means to create/evolve us ... and,
claiming that the similarity of DNA between all species "proves"
evolution. Heck, if that argument holds water, then all structures
which man has ever lived in show signs of evolution--only a handful of
materials have ever been used in the construction of buildings, notably
stone, dirt, plant material, metal and most recently plastic--DNA and
its' span across all life here only demonstrates that the same "building
materials" were used in lifes' creation(s).

One haunting phrase found in the bible, and dealing with God, and
paraphrased he "... is and always has been ..." This deals with
Gods' apparent explanation of his own beginning/existence, obviously,
one could guess, he doesn't know his creator either!

Indeed, logic would lead me to think the necessary
microbe(s)/cell(s)/virus-thingy(s) "came through" with the big bang,
perhaps an intended "life seeding" (experiment?) of this universe--maybe
that is where "heaven" is--outside this universe.

However, count on new theories/discoveries coming on down the road ...
that is something we CAN have faith in. I don't find any of the current
explanations to our existence acceptable--proof of one will correct that.

Regards,
JS

John Smith I wrote:
One haunting phrase found in the bible, and dealing with God, and
paraphrased he "... is and always has been ..." This deals with
Gods' apparent explanation of his own beginning/existence, obviously,
one could guess, he doesn't know his creator either!

People who believe in "first cause" have to grapple with
the question of "What caused God?" If God doesn't have to
have a cause, why does the universe have to have a cause? :-)

The Bible proves that God understood relativity. A day for
God (in his fast starship) is like 1000 years for man on
earth. :-) We can calculate the speed of God's starship
from that information.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
One haunting phrase found in the bible, and dealing with God, and
paraphrased he "... is and always has been ..." This deals with
Gods' apparent explanation of his own beginning/existence, obviously,
one could guess, he doesn't know his creator either!

People who believe in "first cause" have to grapple with
the question of "What caused God?" If God doesn't have to
have a cause, why does the universe have to have a cause? :-)

The Bible proves that God understood relativity. A day for
God (in his fast starship) is like 1000 years for man on
earth. :-) We can calculate the speed of God's starship
from that information.

Its' all how 'ya look at it ...

Could be that God is living in the entangled particle universe (just
down the block a spell.) Could explain why his vision/expectation of
time seems a tad bit faster ...

I heard a rumor that the color of God is grey; and, he is alive and well
and living in Roswell, NM ... :-)

But then, another guy told me the military captured him and got him out
a Groom Lake ... ya never know, ya just never know ...

Regards,
JS

Indeed, logic would lead me to think the necessary
microbe(s)/cell(s)/virus-thingy(s) "came through" with the big bang,
perhaps an intended "life seeding" (experiment?) of this universe--maybe
that is where "heaven" is--outside this universe.

Have we considered that viruses need complex cells in order to
procreate and survive... Perhaps animals were created simply to
provide that service...
It may be that the prodrome of a viral infection, such as the common
cold with its aches, pains and sniffles, is merely a byproduct of
billions of tiny, viral orgasms...

So, who is the higher order of evolution here?

Might I recommend that you all read Richard Dawkin's, THE SELFISH
GENE..
It will give you a new perspective...


denny

Denny wrote:
Indeed, logic would lead me to think the necessary
microbe(s)/cell(s)/virus-thingy(s) "came through" with the big bang,
perhaps an intended "life seeding" (experiment?) of this universe--maybe
that is where "heaven" is--outside this universe.

Have we considered that viruses need complex cells in order to
procreate and survive... Perhaps animals were created simply to
provide that service...
It may be that the prodrome of a viral infection, such as the common
cold with its aches, pains and sniffles, is merely a byproduct of
billions of tiny, viral orgasms...

So, who is the higher order of evolution here?

Might I recommend that you all read Richard Dawkin's, THE SELFISH
GENE..
It will give you a new perspective...


denny


When I mentioned "virus-thingy", I was referring to the organism Cecil
had mentioned earlier, his text:

"We are also discovering "nanobes" so small (20 nm) that
we never realized that they were alive before now. These
critters contain only about 10 DNA molecules."

JS

On 14 Jun, 06:25, John Smith I wrote:
Denny wrote:
Indeed, logic would lead me to think the necessary
microbe(s)/cell(s)/virus-thingy(s) "came through" with the big bang,
perhaps an intended "life seeding" (experiment?) of this universe--maybe
that is where "heaven" is--outside this universe.

Have we considered that viruses need complex cells in order to
procreate and survive... Perhaps animals were created simply to
provide that service...
It may be that the prodrome of a viral infection, such as the common
cold with its aches, pains and sniffles, is merely a byproduct of
billions of tiny, viral orgasms...

So, who is the higher order of evolution here?

Might I recommend that you all read Richard Dawkin's, THE SELFISH
GENE..
It will give you a new perspective...

denny

When I mentioned "virus-thingy", I was referring to the organism Cecil
had mentioned earlier, his text:

"We are also discovering "nanobes" so small (20 nm) that
we never realized that they were alive before now. These
critters contain only about 10 DNA molecules."

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John,
Water does burn. It has been years that I have felt the
sensation of my body throbbing with so much passion.

art wrote:

John,
Water does burn. It has been years that I have felt the
sensation of my body throbbing with so much passion.



To be more precise, water *is* burnt.

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