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Alfred Lorona wrote:
Is there a site that explores/explains the latest theories on one way propagation? The ARRL antenna book is not much help on the subject. tnx, AL One way propagation is possible if there is an anisotropic medium in between (like the ionosphere). A polarized wave may get rotated in passing through the ionized medium, then refracted differently depending on the polarization. If you envision your launching a beam up to the ionosphere, the place on the ground that it hits after "reflecting" would be different depending on the polarization. If someone in the "reflected spot" sent a beam back to you, it too would get rotated on the way, and might propagate to a spot other than yours. A good practical example is the glare reducing filters that rely on a linear polarizer followed by a rotator that rotates the polarization 45 degrees. Unpolarized light coming from the display gets rotated and then polarized, and you see half of it. Light coming from behind you gets polarized, rotated, reflected, rotated again, so now it's 90 degrees to the linear polarizer, and blocked. |
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:50:24 -0700, Jim Lux wrote:
Alfred Lorona wrote: Is there a site that explores/explains the latest theories on one way propagation? The ARRL antenna book is not much help on the subject. One way propagation is possible if there is an anisotropic medium in between (like the ionosphere). A polarized wave may get rotated in passing through the ionized medium, then refracted differently depending on the polarization. If you envision your launching a beam up to the ionosphere, the place on the ground that it hits after "reflecting" would be different depending on the polarization. If someone in the "reflected spot" sent a beam back to you, it too would get rotated on the way, and might propagate to a spot other than yours. Then _that_ would explain why I've seen "one way propagation" more decidedly on 6M versus 15M or the such. I'd think reflections and rotations would be more 'intense' at 50 Mcs., than at lower HF freqs. I've had distant 6M ops give me 'honest' 5/9+10, 5/9+15, 5/9+20 reports when I could only honestly give them S-4, S-5, S-6 reports. Doesn't happen often, but I've experienced it. 73 Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 *** Killfiling google posts: http://jonz.net/ng.htm |
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Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:50:24 -0700, Jim Lux wrote: Alfred Lorona wrote: Is there a site that explores/explains the latest theories on one way propagation? The ARRL antenna book is not much help on the subject. One way propagation is possible if there is an anisotropic medium in between (like the ionosphere). A polarized wave may get rotated in passing through the ionized medium, then refracted differently depending on the polarization. If you envision your launching a beam up to the ionosphere, the place on the ground that it hits after "reflecting" would be different depending on the polarization. If someone in the "reflected spot" sent a beam back to you, it too would get rotated on the way, and might propagate to a spot other than yours. Then _that_ would explain why I've seen "one way propagation" more decidedly on 6M versus 15M or the such. I'd think reflections and rotations would be more 'intense' at 50 Mcs., than at lower HF freqs. I've had distant 6M ops give me 'honest' 5/9+10, 5/9+15, 5/9+20 reports when I could only honestly give them S-4, S-5, S-6 reports. Doesn't happen often, but I've experienced it. Very much so.. The assumption of reciprocal paths goes completely out the window when you have polarization and anisotropic media. Another example of nonreciprocal paths (albeit not for electromagnetic waves) is sound travelling some distance where there is a wind shear. The propagation velocity varies, so sound travelling "with the wind" tends to bend down, while "against the wind" tends to bend up. Same thing occurs, very strikingly, with temperature gradients. I would imagine that conditions conducive to tropospheric ducting would have similar effects, but I can't think of a non-reciprocal example off the top of my head. 73 Jonesy |
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