Can antyone recomend a 2m ANT for parking garage?
 

I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

There is a motorized antenna for situations like yours. I have seen it in
AES and Ham Station literature..

Mitch KD4HTW


"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote in message
m...
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

Bruce,
I would think a 1/4 wave (about 19") should fit.
'Doc

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:30:24 GMT, "Bruce D. Meyer"
wrote:

I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net


One option would be a license plate mount -- see the Lakeview ham
stick site.

Just mount the thing lower on the car.

Bob
k5qwg

Bruce D. Meyer wrote:
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

A friend of mine just runs a mag-mount on his hood. MFJ advertises
the RuffRider Junior 1402 as "fits in any garage on any auto". It
is only 16.5" tall.
--
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Maybe Diamonds Motorized mount K9000 will work for you -- see URL:
http://www.rfparts.com/diamond/

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"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote in message
m...
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

Wow! Excellent replies, each of you. I am checking each one. I shouldn't
have waited this long to ask. (It's been over a year since I had a mobile,
and the window mounted (external) rubber duck on an HT just doesn't have
the reach that a real antennae does. Thanks for your replies, everyone.

Bruce D. Meyer
www.kg4tac.net


"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote in message
m...
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

Can you at least bend something over? Comet makes a series of VHF/UHF
antennas with a breakover joint at the base.

Your other choice is to mount the antenna on a bumper, and live with reduced
performance...

- Mike KI6PR
El Rancho R.F., CA

"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

Still remember the sound of of breaking flourscent lights the first time i
parked in an underground parking lot.
My learning curve improved after that lol.
Robert
"Mikey" wrote in message
...
Can you at least bend something over? Comet makes a series of VHF/UHF
antennas with a breakover joint at the base.

Your other choice is to mount the antenna on a bumper, and live with
reduced
performance...

- Mike KI6PR
El Rancho R.F., CA

"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before
entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

Bruce-- there is an antenna--made for heavy equipment, and railroads that
would
solve your problem, if you could find one-- these are spendy, or if spmeone
can
tell you how to build one-- Used lots of them, they are called an EXCALIBUR
antenna, and are about 3-4 inches high, about 18-20 inches long, and look
kinda
like an anvil with the center hollowed out
(these are a "SLOT" antenna, and, tho mount horizontally, radiate
in the verticle plane!) If can find someone here, that can design one, and
probably
be pretty good market for them!, might give that a try--would take 2 or 3
mag mounts
the comercial version mounts with 6 sheet metal screws, or bolts! But they
do work,
and quite well (used for locomotives, and for talking hot box detectors on
railroad on
old S.P. on signal cases for various detectors, they look like someone put
a "HANDLE"
on a signal case!! Also, might find under the EXCALIBUR name , on
Motorola's web
page ( food for thought )?? Jim NN7K (ex radioman-- Southern, and UNION
Pacific Railroads )
P.S. they also have one, covers 450-470 MHz .



"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?


Bruce Meyer

www.kg4tac.net

Wow! I never heard of such. I remeber an antennae we had on an M113A3 APC
for the Air Force. Looked just like a sharks fin, but only about 4 inches
tall. I will do some searching for Excalibur. Thank you for passing that on.

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Bruce-- there is an antenna--made for heavy equipment, and railroads that
would
solve your problem, if you could find one-- these are spendy, or if
spmeone
can
tell you how to build one-- Used lots of them, they are called an
EXCALIBUR
antenna, and are about 3-4 inches high, about 18-20 inches long, and look
kinda
like an anvil with the center hollowed out
(these are a "SLOT" antenna, and, tho mount horizontally, radiate
in the verticle plane!) If can find someone here, that can design one,
and
probably
be pretty good market for them!, might give that a try--would take 2 or 3
mag mounts
the comercial version mounts with 6 sheet metal screws, or bolts! But
they
do work,
and quite well (used for locomotives, and for talking hot box detectors
on
railroad on
old S.P. on signal cases for various detectors, they look like someone
put
a "HANDLE"
on a signal case!! Also, might find under the EXCALIBUR name , on
Motorola's web
page ( food for thought )?? Jim NN7K (ex radioman-- Southern, and UNION
Pacific Railroads )
P.S. they also have one, covers 450-470 MHz .



"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?


Bruce Meyer

www.kg4tac.net

I hear you. When I knocked my antennae off i had just swooped on into a
parking garage (I had a pickup then) and knocked that sucker right off the
top of my truck. My blood froze in my veins...


"bunnydawg" wrote in message
.. .
Still remember the sound of of breaking flourscent lights the first time i
parked in an underground parking lot.
My learning curve improved after that lol.
Robert
"Mikey" wrote in message
...
Can you at least bend something over? Comet makes a series of VHF/UHF
antennas with a breakover joint at the base.

Your other choice is to mount the antenna on a bumper, and live with
reduced
performance...

- Mike KI6PR
El Rancho R.F., CA

"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit
on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before
entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

I have a PT Druiser, so almost the eintire length of the 5/8th wave would
radiate directly into the body of my car. if I mounted onto the plastic
bumper. Fold-away IS an option, that and the shorter 1/4 wave. I am
researching a few of the posts, and will now add the Comet to my list.

Thank you for your help.

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

"Mikey" wrote in message
...
Can you at least bend something over? Comet makes a series of VHF/UHF
antennas with a breakover joint at the base.

Your other choice is to mount the antenna on a bumper, and live with
reduced
performance...

- Mike KI6PR
El Rancho R.F., CA

"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before
entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

Try the Comet SBB-1NMO dual band mounted on mag mount base with NMO
connector such as Larsen MNO MM. Page 98 of HRO Winter 03 catalog,
$39.95. It's 17 inches long (plus an inch for the mag mount), looks
like a rubber duck, and is super flexible.

I have one on my Toyota Land Cruiser which is quite tall. The antenna
hits some of the overheads in an 84 inch (7 ft) clearance garage, but
it just flexes and plonks along. I would think that your vehicle is
not as tall as mine so that even the Larsen NMOQ 2/70 B at 18 inches
might work. That one is on page 100 of HRO catalog.

Dick Ballard
Beaverton OR
W7AND


On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:30:24 GMT, "Bruce D. Meyer"
wrote:

I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

I use a diamond NR72BNMO aboutt 14" or so. I get great results and it
is very low profile. I live around Memphis, TN, and I work on the
other side of town from our repeater and consistantly get in on low
power. Gain is only about 2.1 on 2M and 70CM, but does me well.

Scott
N2WMD

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:04:20 -0800, "Mikey" wrote:

Can you at least bend something over? Comet makes a series of VHF/UHF
antennas with a breakover joint at the base.

Your other choice is to mount the antenna on a bumper, and live with reduced
performance...

- Mike KI6PR
El Rancho R.F., CA

"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

This sounds good. Since I already have a Larsen NMO Mag Mount, this makes
for good economy also.
Thank-you.

Bruce


"Dick Ballard" wrote in message
...
Try the Comet SBB-1NMO dual band mounted on mag mount base with NMO
connector such as Larsen MNO MM. Page 98 of HRO Winter 03 catalog,
$39.95. It's 17 inches long (plus an inch for the mag mount), looks
like a rubber duck, and is super flexible.

I have one on my Toyota Land Cruiser which is quite tall. The antenna
hits some of the overheads in an 84 inch (7 ft) clearance garage, but
it just flexes and plonks along. I would think that your vehicle is
not as tall as mine so that even the Larsen NMOQ 2/70 B at 18 inches
might work. That one is on page 100 of HRO catalog.

Dick Ballard
Beaverton OR
W7AND


On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:30:24 GMT, "Bruce D. Meyer"
wrote:

I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

I am glad to hear this, I was a bit discouraged by a post about reduced
perofrmance. i understand that going to 1/4 wave will giv eme reduced
performance, but glad to hear you can still deal with the concrete jungle. I
work in Columbia, SC We have a good bunch of repeaters in the City (Even an
IRLP!) You folks have been very helpful. (Why did I wait so long to ask?)
sheesh.

Bruce
"Scott Vanzandt" wrote in message
...
I use a diamond NR72BNMO aboutt 14" or so. I get great results and it
is very low profile. I live around Memphis, TN, and I work on the
other side of town from our repeater and consistantly get in on low
power. Gain is only about 2.1 on 2M and 70CM, but does me well.

Scott
N2WMD

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:04:20 -0800, "Mikey" wrote:

Can you at least bend something over? Comet makes a series of VHF/UHF
antennas with a breakover joint at the base.

Your other choice is to mount the antenna on a bumper, and live with
reduced
performance...

- Mike KI6PR
El Rancho R.F., CA

"Bruce D. Meyer" wrote
I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before
entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

You might consider a DDRR antenna. See
http://www.antennex.com/preview/2mddrr.htm. They are available commercially,
too.

Phil, KB2HQ

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:30:24 GMT, "Bruce D. Meyer"
wrote:

I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

Very neat! I love the idea.
Bruce, KG4TAC
"Phil" wrote in message
...
You might consider a DDRR antenna. See
http://www.antennex.com/preview/2mddrr.htm. They are available
commercially,
too.

Phil, KB2HQ

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:30:24 GMT, "Bruce D. Meyer"
wrote:

I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before
entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:56:19 GMT, "Bruce D. Meyer"
Jim NN7K (ex radioman-- Southern, and UNION
Pacific Railroads )



Hey, Jim, I hope you got to retire from UP. I got outsourced,
then downsized, by SP.

Ken

Had forgot about the DDRR -- After further checking , the geometry of it,
and the Excalibur, they are really the same antennas, just that the DDRR is
formed into a circle, while the Excalibur is a straight line
The Excalibur looks like : __X__________________
/__X__________________
, with the middle open, 1/4 wavelength long

and as stated,

"X's" would be the feedpoint !
is a "slot" antenna . These are related to aircraft antennas, where , a
slot is cut into the frame, and then fed with R.F. You don't see it, as it
is covered with fabric, plastic, or some other non-conductive media !
As a further aside, is used , in bombers, extensively, and have arrays of
these , stacked in phase!!
reason is if one, or 2 shot out, the antenna will still work, literally
until the plane is destroyed!
As info, Jim NN7K



"Phil" wrote in message
...
You might consider a DDRR antenna. See
http://www.antennex.com/preview/2mddrr.htm. They are available
commercially,
too.

Phil, KB2HQ

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:30:24 GMT, "Bruce D. Meyer"
wrote:

I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before
entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net

That is very cool. I have been reading about DDRR since the original post.
I still need to look for Excalibur.
Bruce
"Jim" wrote in message
...
Had forgot about the DDRR -- After further checking , the geometry of it,
and the Excalibur, they are really the same antennas, just that the DDRR
is
formed into a circle, while the Excalibur is a straight line
The Excalibur looks like : __X__________________
/__X__________________
, with the middle open, 1/4 wavelength long

and as stated,

"X's" would be the feedpoint !
is a "slot" antenna . These are related to aircraft antennas, where , a
slot is cut into the frame, and then fed with R.F. You don't see it, as
it
is covered with fabric, plastic, or some other non-conductive media !
As a further aside, is used , in bombers, extensively, and have arrays of
these , stacked in phase!!
reason is if one, or 2 shot out, the antenna will still work, literally
until the plane is destroyed!
As info, Jim NN7K



"Phil" wrote in message
...
You might consider a DDRR antenna. See
http://www.antennex.com/preview/2mddrr.htm. They are available
commercially,
too.

Phil, KB2HQ

"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 02:30:24 GMT, "Bruce D. Meyer"
wrote:

I park in a parking garage at work, so my 2 meter anetnnae won't fit
on
the
car (P.T. Cruiser) while in the garage. Removing it, just before
entering
the garage is not an option. Does anyone have a recomendation on an
alternate 2 meter antennae?

Bruce Meyer
www.kg4tac.net