On 22 Sep, 07:22, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" wrote

The most efficient radiator is one wave length long where
it is considered to be in equilibrium with a parallel electrical
cuircuit.
For most efficient radiation both the capacitance and the
inductance must act as a energy storage such that when
the terminals are shorted the energy is released in a burst
such that radiation can begin. ... In the case of a fractional
wave length radiator the pendulum type radiation is not
available for radiation

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Note (for one example of many) that in an antenna system consisting of a
1/2-wave, center-fed dipole driven by a matched, balanced transmission line,
the dipole itself radiates virtually all of the r-f energy present at the
antenna feedpoint.

The radiation efficiency of a system as in the above example, but using a
full wave dipole is no better than the 1/2-wave version, other things equal.
The full wave version just has a different radiation pattern.

RF

On 22 Sep, 07:22, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" wrote

The most efficient radiator is one wave length long where
it is considered to be in equilibrium with a parallel electrical
cuircuit.
For most efficient radiation both the capacitance and the
inductance must act as a energy storage such that when
the terminals are shorted the energy is released in a burst
such that radiation can begin. ... In the case of a fractional
wave length radiator the pendulum type radiation is not
available for radiation

___________

Note (for one example of many) that in an antenna system consisting of a
1/2-wave, center-fed dipole driven by a matched, balanced transmission line,
the dipole itself radiates virtually all of the r-f energy present at the
antenna feedpoint.

The radiation efficiency of a system as in the above example, but using a
full wave dipole is no better than the 1/2-wave version, other things equal.
The full wave version just has a different radiation pattern.

RF

I don't know what your credentials are for you to make such a
statement but it is a free world after all!
A quad radiator is a wave length radiator with a gain more than a half
wave as one sample.
Computor programing confirmes more radiation from full wave antennas
and mathematics according to Maxwell,s rules substantiate it. I can
understand not believing computor programs but I am very interested in
any mathematical data that would support your stand which is contrary
to the mathematics that I and others support.
What you are stating is that an attena in a series cuircit format
produces the same radiation as a parallel or tank cuircuit. I am more
than eager to read the contrary mathematical proof that is contrary to
the mathematics that I hold true. You may have hit on the true
explaqnation of radiation which Einstein, Planck and many others went
to their grave without solving it
Regards
Art KB9MZ.....XG

"art" wrote
A quad radiator is a wave length radiator with a gain more
than a half wave as one sample.

In your first post you wrote, "The most efficient radiator is one wave
length long where it is considered to be in equilibrium with a parallel
electrical cuircuit," and that is what I responded to.

Now you are writing about gain. Efficiency and gain are not synonymous.

Both of the dipole antennas in my previous post will radiate nearly 100% of
the r-f energy available from a matched, balanced source connected to their
input terminals. Therefore the radiation efficiency of those two
configurations does not favor the 1-wave over the 1/2-wave, which was your
opening premise.

They won't have the same gains in every direction, because their radiation
patterns are different. Same for your quad and "half wave" example.

RF