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John Smith September 24th 07 05:15 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Perhaps?

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
certain; as far as they are certain, they do not refer to
reality."--Albert Einstein

And, I humbly propose:

"Too often, the ignorant are quick to conceal their ignorance in
complexity not well grasped by common men."--John Smith

Regards,
JS

J. Mc Laughlin September 25th 07 12:57 AM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Outstanding Fergus. Though I would change "which" to "that" as the Unknown
is defining the type of language. 73, Mac N8TT

..... and I want nothing to do with the this tar-baby topic. The thing
speaks for itself.

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"fergus" wrote in message


"People who know what they are talking about can afford to use
language which everyone understands" -- Unknown



--

Fergus




Hal Rosser September 25th 07 03:23 AM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
And, I humbly propose:

"Too often, the ignorant are quick to conceal their ignorance in
complexity not well grasped by common men."--John Smith

Regards,
JS


I represent that remark. my good man.
My ignorance will heretofore never be concealed again.
I can display my ignorance with the best of'em.



John Smith September 25th 07 03:53 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Hal Rosser wrote:

...
I represent that remark. my good man.
My ignorance will heretofore never be concealed again.
I can display my ignorance with the best of'em.



Hal:

Interesting, I agree!

We are all ignorant on some points, it is mankinds' lot. The wiser will
attempt to gain understanding to cure this "disorder."

The "terminally ignorant" will maintain their status ...

Regards,
JS

Jim Kelley September 26th 07 07:33 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 


John Smith wrote:
Perhaps?

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
certain; as far as they are certain, they do not refer to
reality."--Albert Einstein

And, I humbly propose:

"Too often, the ignorant are quick to conceal their ignorance in
complexity not well grasped by common men."--John Smith


I think that's true. I like it.

I like this one too:

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."

ac6xg



Cecil Moore[_2_] September 26th 07 08:04 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Jim Kelley wrote:
"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."


In the same vein: Better to appear ignorant than
open one's mouth and remove all doubt. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

John Smith September 26th 07 08:32 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Jim Kelley wrote:

...
I think that's true. I like it.

I like this one too:

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."

ac6xg



I disagree ...

"Those who seldom open their mouths seldom have opportunity to cure
their ignorance."--John Smith

"To admit ones ignorance implies the desire to dispel it."--John Smith

"There are no stupid questions, only people too stupid to pose
questions."--John Smith

"Those who attempt control usually end up stagnating in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated"--John Smith

Regards,
JS

Jim Kelley September 26th 07 08:32 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 


Cecil Moore wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote:

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."



In the same vein: Better to appear ignorant than
open one's mouth and remove all doubt. :-)


I agree. Standing around with your mouth hanging open does tend to
make one appear ignorant. :-)

ac6xg


John Smith September 26th 07 08:35 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Cecil Moore wrote:

In the same vein: Better to appear ignorant than
open one's mouth and remove all doubt. :-)


Cecil:

You got it pegged.

However, admitting ones ignorance demands they attempt to remedy it.
And, certainly demands more respect ...

In such a world, the silent-ignorant-majority would rein supreme! (and,
most likely, only hold dialog in CW) ;-)

Regards,
JS

Jim Kelley September 26th 07 08:40 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 


John Smith wrote:

Jim Kelley wrote:

...
I think that's true. I like it.

I like this one too:

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."

ac6xg



I disagree ...

"Those who seldom open their mouths seldom have opportunity to cure
their ignorance."--John Smith

"To admit ones ignorance implies the desire to dispel it."--John Smith

"There are no stupid questions, only people too stupid to pose
questions."--John Smith

"Those who attempt control usually end up stagnating in
rec.radio.amateur.moderated"--John Smith


"Foolishness is not diluted by it's own abundance." Jim Kelley

ac6xg



John Smith September 26th 07 09:03 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Jim Kelley wrote:

...
"Foolishness is not diluted by it's own abundance." Jim Kelley

ac6xg


"Suggestions of silence cloaked in writings constructed to imply wisdom
are still only a circular path to the same ignorance."--John Smith

"The forge of true knowledge exists in the form of debated and differing
ideas."--John Smith

Regards,
JS


Cecil Moore[_2_] September 26th 07 09:39 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
John Smith wrote:
However, admitting ones ignorance demands they attempt to remedy it.
And, certainly demands more respect ...


I've found that leading questions, no matter how
ignorant-sounding, are a good learning tool for
everyone, including me. :-)

Example question to someone on eHam.net who says:
"All you need is a 4:1 balun placed outside the shack
at the end of the balanced line to convert to coax."

Where are you going to find a 200 ohm impedance to
match that 4:1 balun that you are recommending for
use in your non-resonant system?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

John Smith September 26th 07 10:17 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
However, admitting ones ignorance demands they attempt to remedy it.
And, certainly demands more respect ...


I've found that leading questions, no matter how
ignorant-sounding, are a good learning tool for
everyone, including me. :-)

Example question to someone on eHam.net who says:
"All you need is a 4:1 balun placed outside the shack
at the end of the balanced line to convert to coax."

Where are you going to find a 200 ohm impedance to
match that 4:1 balun that you are recommending for
use in your non-resonant system?


With no system to tune the 200 (+/-) antenna to resonance--only at a
relatively few frequencies on the dial--unless the antenna, itself, was
only constructed for use on a relatively narrow band (or, perhaps
harmonically related narrow bands) ... sounds to me, some system of
causing resonance was implied?

However, and perhaps contrary to logic, I have seen 4:1 (2:1 to 9:1 for
that matter--and certainly "choke baluns") baluns cause a general gain
in general performance--and do this more often than not.

Forced to report just what my "eyes" have seen--I, "ignorantly", must
state--go figure ... but then again, if it walks like a duck ...

Regards,
JS

Roy Lewallen September 26th 07 11:54 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Jim Kelley wrote:

I think that's true. I like it.

I like this one too:

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."


The Peter Sellers movie "Being There" was a clear illustration of the
consequences of applying this principle.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Jim Kelley September 27th 07 12:20 AM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 


Roy Lewallen wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote:


I think that's true. I like it.

I like this one too:

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."



The Peter Sellers movie "Being There" was a clear illustration of the
consequences of applying this principle.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


Perhaps I should have said "Some people just don't know when to shut
up." I think that much is true without exception. I now know that I
should have shut up about 3 posts back. :-)

ac6xg



John Smith September 27th 07 12:59 AM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Jim Kelley wrote:

...
Perhaps I should have said "Some people just don't know when to shut
up." I think that much is true without exception. I now know that I
should have shut up about 3 posts back. :-)

ac6xg


Perhaps the problems is, no one can possibly appreciate what you say as
much as you yourself--let it be enough it pleases you! :-)

Regards,
JS

Denny September 27th 07 12:30 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Wow, you guys are really smart...





John Smith September 27th 07 03:21 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
Denny wrote:
Wow, you guys are really smart...


Thanks, coming from you, that is a real compliment, now isn't it? ;-)

Regards,
JS

Nate Bargmann September 27th 07 11:52 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:33:02 -0700, Jim Kelley wrote:

John Smith wrote:
Perhaps?

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
certain; as far as they are certain, they do not refer to
reality."--Albert Einstein

And, I humbly propose:

"Too often, the ignorant are quick to conceal their ignorance in
complexity not well grasped by common men."--John Smith


I think that's true. I like it.

I like this one too:

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."


By that metric, the Internet has gotten less intelligent as it grew.

Who knew?

73, de Nate

--

"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds,
the pessimist fears this is true."

Jim Kelley September 28th 07 10:32 PM

I suspect, if Einstein were given a word ...
 


Nate Bargmann wrote:

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:33:02 -0700, Jim Kelley wrote:


John Smith wrote:

Perhaps?

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
certain; as far as they are certain, they do not refer to
reality."--Albert Einstein

And, I humbly propose:

"Too often, the ignorant are quick to conceal their ignorance in
complexity not well grasped by common men."--John Smith


I think that's true. I like it.

I like this one too:

"He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."



By that metric, the Internet has gotten less intelligent as it grew.

Who knew?

73, de Nate


After all, what do ancient Chinese philosophers know about the
internet? ;-)

ac6xg



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