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Old February 16th 04, 03:03 AM
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I've been studying for my Extra Class for a pretty long time now (Sheesh!
A couple YEARS) and understand that the question pool has changed. No, I'm
not interested in a question pool/cheat sheet. I want to make sure I
understand all the subject matter and pass the test. I have the "ARRL Extra
Class License Manual" published in 2000 and want to continue studying with
it. Here's my question.
Since the question pool has changed, has the material changed? Should I
go buy the 8th printing to make sure I have a manual that focuses on newer
requirements?
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Old February 16th 04, 03:40 AM
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:03:50 -0600, "Drink" wrote:

I've been studying for my Extra Class for a pretty long time now (Sheesh!
A couple YEARS)

....
Should I
go buy the 8th printing to make sure I have a manual that focuses on newer
requirements?


Hi OM,

Relieve the stress and just take the test. You don't need a perfect
score to pass.

If you don't pass, take it again.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC
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Old February 17th 04, 02:59 PM
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"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:03:50 -0600, "Drink" wrote:

I've been studying for my Extra Class .....


Hi OM,

Relieve the stress and just take the test. You don't need a perfect
score to pass.

If you don't pass, take it again.....


Try a practice exam at www.qrz.com.

Understanding the answers is all well and good but more and more the "right"
answer depends on FCC and/or ARRL fiat rather than physics. Nor is that
unreasonable. Why require theory if everybody is an appliance ham anyway?
The times, they are a changing and nobody can stop it.

73, K3DWW


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Old February 17th 04, 09:10 PM
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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:03:50 -0600, "Drink" wrote:

I've been studying for my Extra Class .....


Hi OM,

Relieve the stress and just take the test. You don't need a perfect
score to pass.

If you don't pass, take it again.....


Try a practice exam at www.qrz.com.

Understanding the answers is all well and good but more and more the

"right"
answer depends on FCC and/or ARRL fiat rather than physics. Nor is that
unreasonable. Why require theory if everybody is an appliance ham anyway?
The times, they are a changing and nobody can stop it.

73, K3DWW


Well the hams may end up being "appliance operators" but they will each be
responsible for the quality of signal that there station puts out. The FCC
will not accept the excuse that one doesn't know how to address problems
with their station signal whether or not the material remains on the test.
They will continue to require that you comply with the rules and thus it's a
good idea to actually learn and understand the material.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old February 17th 04, 09:53 PM
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How can you be so elitist as to expect anyone to learn anything, is it not
sufficient that they want it?

It's simply is not fair for someone to obtain somethng through effort, if
you have it and I want it, I deserve it with no additional effort on my
part.

It is Kenwood, Icom or whatever's responsibility that my station works
correctly. I can't be bothered by some stupid rules or code as in inhibits
my right to everything.

Member "No code, No test, Know Nothing International"



"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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Well the hams may end up being "appliance operators" but they will each be
responsible for the quality of signal that there station puts out. The

FCC
will not accept the excuse that one doesn't know how to address problems
with their station signal whether or not the material remains on the test.
They will continue to require that you comply with the rules and thus it's

a
good idea to actually learn and understand the material.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE





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Old February 18th 04, 04:41 AM
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W4JLE wrote:

How can you be so elitist as to expect anyone to learn anything, is it not
sufficient that they want it?

It's simply is not fair for someone to obtain somethng through effort, if
you have it and I want it, I deserve it with no additional effort on my
part.

It is Kenwood, Icom or whatever's responsibility that my station works
correctly. I can't be bothered by some stupid rules or code as in inhibits
my right to everything.

Member "No code, No test, Know Nothing International"



Remember, you can't make things simple enough for everyone!

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old February 19th 04, 08:29 PM
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W4JLE w4jle(remove to wrote:

[snippety]

It is Kenwood, Icom or whatever's responsibility that my station works
correctly. I can't be bothered by some stupid rules or code as in inhibits
my right to everything.


Member "No code, No test, Know Nothing International"


I think you forgot the dws and /dws[1] tags on your post.

[1] "dripping with sarcasm" and "stop dripping with sarcasm"

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Old February 18th 04, 04:39 AM
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Vito wrote:
"Richard Clark" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:03:50 -0600, "Drink" wrote:


I've been studying for my Extra Class .....


Hi OM,

Relieve the stress and just take the test. You don't need a perfect
score to pass.

If you don't pass, take it again.....



Try a practice exam at www.qrz.com.

Understanding the answers is all well and good but more and more the "right"
answer depends on FCC and/or ARRL fiat rather than physics. Nor is that
unreasonable. Why require theory if everybody is an appliance ham anyway?
The times, they are a changing and nobody can stop it.


Well, not everybody is an appliance Ham!

- Mike KB3EIA -

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Old February 16th 04, 04:54 AM
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"Drink" wrote in message
...
I've been studying for my Extra Class for a pretty long time now

(Sheesh!
A couple YEARS) and understand that the question pool has changed. No,

I'm
not interested in a question pool/cheat sheet. I want to make sure I
understand all the subject matter and pass the test. I have the "ARRL

Extra
Class License Manual" published in 2000 and want to continue studying with
it. Here's my question.
Since the question pool has changed, has the material changed? Should I
go buy the 8th printing to make sure I have a manual that focuses on newer
requirements?


Forget about learning anything from the question pool book. Just get the
new Q/A book and memorize the thing. If you want to learn things, got a
ARRL Handbook. I took the old advanced test and only read the answers once.
Took the old Extra test and never did read the Q/A book. I did have an
advantage of having a good electronics background andwas a ham for about 25
years before. Electronics don't change but the rules and frequencies do
change.

I have had to take many tests where I work for various things. One was on
refrigeration systems as required by the government. The company had about
20 of us in a cram session for a day and the next day we took the test. The
instructor made one statement the stuck with me. He said "that many of us
may know more about refrigeration than I do but we are going to learn the
answers the government wants". I know almost nothing about refrigeration,
but I did learn the rules for releasing freon in the atmosphere.


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"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
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I have had to take many tests where I work for various things. One was on
refrigeration systems as required by the government. The company had

about
20 of us in a cram session for a day and the next day we took the test.

The
instructor made one statement the stuck with me. He said "that many of us
may know more about refrigeration than I do but we are going to learn the
answers the government wants". I know almost nothing about refrigeration,
but I did learn the rules for releasing freon in the atmosphere.



You call it nitrogen and do it quickly when no one is looking, right?
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