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Old February 16th 04, 06:22 PM
Mike Coslo
 
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Drink wrote:
I've been studying for my Extra Class for a pretty long time now (Sheesh!
A couple YEARS) and understand that the question pool has changed. No, I'm
not interested in a question pool/cheat sheet. I want to make sure I
understand all the subject matter and pass the test. I have the "ARRL Extra
Class License Manual" published in 2000 and want to continue studying with
it. Here's my question.
Since the question pool has changed, has the material changed? Should I
go buy the 8th printing to make sure I have a manual that focuses on newer
requirements?

You can download the question pool from ARRL:

http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/2002_Extra_Pool3_.pdf

ot text:

http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/2002_Extra_Pool3_.txt


You can also take one of the online tests at a place like qrz.com


Nothing wrong with using the question pool. If you can read a study
guide book where the answers are, it's just about the same thing. Go for
it, Drink!

p.s. unless you are into the idea of memorizing 800 some questions,
you're better off to take the online tests, then study up on the
questions you missed.

- mike KB3EIA -

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Old February 16th 04, 10:27 PM
Duane Allen
 
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Jim, WP3JQ wrote:

... Since the question pool has changed, has the material changed? Should I
go buy the 8th printing to make sure I have a manual that focuses on newer
requirements?


Jim,

Mike, KB3EIA suggests using
http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/2002_Extra_Pool3.pdf. This is a good idea.
You also will need the graphics
http://www.arrl.org/arrlvec/2002_Extra_Graphics.pdf that go along with
the question pool.

Actually the questions of the pool are arranged very nicely for
organizing your studies. And they contain indication of how many
questions on the exam are related to each general area. Basically one
question from each group. If you can answer all the questions in each
group, you should be able to answer all the exam questions.

SUBELEMENT E1 -- COMMISSION'S RULES [7 Exam Questions -- 7 Groups]
Download the Part 97 rules from
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/w...7cfr97_02.html

SUBELEMENT E2 -- OPERATING PROCEDURES [5 Exam Questions - 5 Groups]
SUBELEMENT E3 -- RADIO WAVE PROPAGATION [3 Exam Questions - 3 Groups]
SUBELEMENT E4 -- AMATEUR RADIO PRACTICES [5 Exam Questions -- 5 Groups]
SUBELEMENT E5 -- ELECTRICAL PRINCIPLES [9 Exam Questions -- 9 Groups]
SUBELEMENT E6 -- CIRCUIT COMPONENTS [5 Exam Questions -- 5 Groups]
SUBELEMENT E7 -- PRACTICAL CIRCUITS [7 Exam Questions -- 7 Groups]
SUBELEMENT E8 -- SIGNALS AND EMISSIONS [4 Exam Questions -- 4 Groups]
SUBELEMENT E9 -- ANTENNAS [5 Exam Questions -- 5 Groups]

For your studies, since you don't want to depend on rote memory of the
answers, I suggest that you go throught all the questions as if you were
taking an open book exam. If you have a good knowledge, two hours per
day for two weeks or less should get you through the questions.

During my review, for those questions where I didn't know answer or had
forgotten the equations, I looked up the material in references. The
ARRL Handbook served as a reference for more than 80 percent of
subelements E2 through E9. A calculator that can convert between
rectangular and polar coordinates proved very useful. While most of my
review just refreshed that which I knew before, in answering questions
on Q, I actually learned something new.

Best wishes,

Duane, N6JPO



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Old February 16th 04, 11:15 PM
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"Drink" wrote in message
...
I've been studying for my Extra Class for a pretty long time now

(Sheesh!
A couple YEARS) and understand that the question pool has changed. No,

I'm
not interested in a question pool/cheat sheet. I want to make sure I
understand all the subject matter and pass the test. I have the "ARRL

Extra
Class License Manual" published in 2000 and want to continue studying with
it. Here's my question.
Since the question pool has changed, has the material changed? Should I
go buy the 8th printing to make sure I have a manual that focuses on newer
requirements?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W



Try the practice exams at sites like QRZ.com and I think eham has them also.

However, the license manual published in 2000 is seriously out of date.
Since that time, the material has been dramatically expanded. The material
from the old Advanced Class licensed was added into the Extra exam and there
have also been some rule changes. Most of that Advanced Class material was
NOT covered in the guide available in 2000. You've missed the window where
the Extra exam had not yet been upgraded to include that material.

So try the practice exams and see where you stand. The odds are that you
will need to study the 8th edition to successfully prepare for the test.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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Old February 18th 04, 03:19 AM
Drink
 
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Thanks for the advice gents. I really appreciate it. Didn't quite expect
some of them but I guess that's what they call "intellectual diversity".
Haha! Anyway, I guess I'll take a median approach. 1) Get the 8th edition
since Advanced Class material has been incorporated and, 2) focus on passing
the test without rote memorization of the question pool. I'm sure I'll
learn a good deal before the test. But, I'm not going to learn Everything.
So, I guess I'll just keep on learning after Extra and focus on what I think
is important, challenging or simply of interest.
Cool. I think I just had a breakthrough and you guys were part of it
I'm getting closer. Thanks to all.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
.com...

"Drink" wrote in message
...
I've been studying for my Extra Class for a pretty long time now

(Sheesh!
A couple YEARS) and understand that the question pool has changed. No,

I'm
not interested in a question pool/cheat sheet. I want to make sure I
understand all the subject matter and pass the test. I have the "ARRL

Extra
Class License Manual" published in 2000 and want to continue studying

with
it. Here's my question.
Since the question pool has changed, has the material changed? Should

I
go buy the 8th printing to make sure I have a manual that focuses on

newer
requirements?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W



Try the practice exams at sites like QRZ.com and I think eham has them

also.

However, the license manual published in 2000 is seriously out of date.
Since that time, the material has been dramatically expanded. The

material
from the old Advanced Class licensed was added into the Extra exam and

there
have also been some rule changes. Most of that Advanced Class material

was
NOT covered in the guide available in 2000. You've missed the window

where
the Extra exam had not yet been upgraded to include that material.

So try the practice exams and see where you stand. The odds are that you
will need to study the 8th edition to successfully prepare for the test.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



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