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Thanks for the comments. Once again, I scanned a posting too hastily,
and somehow missed the "transmitter" part. My comments were appropriate for a receiving antenna, not transmitting. So let me try to answer both Tom's and Mark's postings more appropriately. None of us has a constant current source with which to drive an antenna, but generally a source with a fixed amount of power and a finite source impedance. If we did have a constant current source, then yes, adding more and more ferrite cores would result in more and more power being delivered by the source, a larger and larger fraction of which would be dissipated in the ferrite. A 1 megohm resistor would get a bundle of power from our source, and a 10 megohm resistor would get 10 times as much. If we have a tuner, we can adjust our source impedance over some range. Provided that the feedpoint impedance is within that range with the ferrites in place, we can deliver all our power to the ferrite-antenna combination. I believe that the fraction of the power applied to the antenna which ends up in the ferrites monotonically increases as we add ferrites (assuming we don't move the previously added ones). If the ferrites were all at the base, the equivalent load circuit would be just two impedances in series -- the ferrite impedance and the antenna feedpoint impedance, and it would behave as Tom said. But putting the ferrite cores anywhere but the base changes the antenna current distribution, which has a potentially complex effect on the feedpoint impedance other than just adding the transformed impedance of the core. This means that not only does Tom's Z3 increase as we add ferrites, but Z1 changes also. Roy Lewallen, W7EL K7ITM wrote: On Oct 16, 3:40 pm, Roy Lewallen wrote: ... Regarding the ferrite absorbing energy from the antenna -- the amount absorbed will be maximum when the ferrite's impedance is the complex conjugate of the antenna's. For example, if the vertical is resonant and grounded with no feed system, you'll get maximum ferrite heating when the ferrite's impedance is around 36 + j0 ohms. If you add more ferrite, the amount of power absorbed from a passing wave and delivered to the ferrite will decrease, approaching zero as the ferrite impedance increases to a large value. ... I'm puzzling over this, Roy. It seems like this assumes some source impedance driving the antenna, but maybe I'm missing something in your analysis. My thought-process is to treat the antenna as an impedance Z1, the ferrite an impedance Z2, and the source an impedance Z3, the three of them being in series. I suppose thinking of the antenna as a constant impedance as you change its environment with ferrite might not be quite right, but to the degree that approximation is correct, then I'd expect maximum ferrite dissipation (absorption) would occur when its impedance, Z2 is equal to the complex conjugate of (Z1+Z3). On the other hand, if I feed the antenna with a constant current source, the ferrite dissipation increases indefinitely as the resistive component of its impedance increases. Am I missing something? Cheers, Tom |
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