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A friend of mine wants to try out the AO program by Beazely.
The program is not in the commercial market now as it is not being
sold
He wants to make a copy of my disc to try something out that requires
AO
I suppose since it is not for sale which probably means copyrights are
now defunct


Copyright is (virtually)forever, regardless of any aspect of whether the
work was or is for sale or not.

One cannot, for instance, make a legal copy of an original (film) print
of Disney's "Snow White", if you happened to have such a thing, even
though Disney doesn't sell it (and never has, actually. prints are just
rented or loaned)


I don't see any reason to not acceed to his request.


Well, since its still covered by copyright, it wouldn't be either legal
or ethical to do so.


Ofcourse so few people pay for computor programs these days but I like
to do things right,
after all if a patent is abandoned then it is a free for all since
the advance of science cannot be stopped and it becomes freeware


Patents have a relatively short term (20 years now), and have a whole
aspect of "all infringers must be pursued", which does not apply in the
case of copyright. You do NOT have to purse all infringers of copyright
to keep the protection in force, and the term of copyright has been
extended over the years.. 50 years after the author's death, I think
(and Brian is still alive...)


Lest you be thinking of one of the "fair use" exceptions, you'd have a
very tough time justifying it for software. Same for the "library making
copies of out-of-print or hard-to-find books" exception.



Stanford University has an excellent site with summaries and gory
details on copyrights, particularly with respect to "fair use".

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/

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On 5 Nov, 11:09, Jim Lux wrote:
art wrote:
A friend of mine wants to try out the AO program by Beazely.
The program is not in the commercial market now as it is not being
sold
He wants to make a copy of my disc to try something out that requires
AO
I suppose since it is not for sale which probably means copyrights are
now defunct


Copyright is (virtually)forever, regardless of any aspect of whether the
work was or is for sale or not.

One cannot, for instance, make a legal copy of an original (film) print
of Disney's "Snow White", if you happened to have such a thing, even
though Disney doesn't sell it (and never has, actually. prints are just
rented or loaned)

I don't see any reason to not acceed to his request.


Well, since its still covered by copyright, it wouldn't be either legal
or ethical to do so.


This is America! The two words you used don't have meaning anymore.
As Roy would say the reaction is "justifiable"
Legal is a reference to law, federal law, but that only comes into
place at the whim
of some public servant. On top of that it is to slow to be a
deterrant.
Ethics is something based upon religeon but in America every thing is
based on results
for which the reward is money. There are many a religeous person who
will turn to the gun to deter abortion as well as chemists who will
not sell birth control pills
to the public. Both of these are against the law but the accused say
it is ethics which "justify"
can be used. Again this is a capatalistic country and shooting in the
back
is allowable in the absence of laws. You voted like other Americans
for a
government that provokes wars, lies and tortures, so would you
describe efforts to dethrone Bush
as being something unethical which is also against the law? The demand
for ethics
is now only used in America by losers when law is not on their sidea
and laws are purchased
using money .
As Cronkite would say " that's the way it is"

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Art





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