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Richard Clark wrote:
"It" is called a dipole. 'It" has already been done. There have been
extrememly long threads here for weeks discussing this design:
Rotatable 200M antennas that are half a meter wide!

According to the following IEEE paper:

http://www.ttr.com/TELSIKS2001-MASTER-1.pdf

A 75m 6" dia. 4 tpi Texas Bugcatcher coil has a
VF of around 0.024 on 1.9 MHz. A self-resonant
160m dipole made from such coil stock would be
only about 6 feet long.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

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On 26 Nov, 08:55, Cecil Moore wrote:
Richard Clark wrote:
"It" is called a dipole. 'It" has already been done. There have been
extrememly long threads here for weeks discussing this design:
Rotatable 200M antennas that are half a meter wide!

According to the following IEEE paper:

http://www.ttr.com/TELSIKS2001-MASTER-1.pdf

A 75m 6" dia. 4 tpi Texas Bugcatcher coil has a
VF of around 0.024 on 1.9 MHz. A self-resonant
160m dipole made from such coil stock would be
only about 6 feet long.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

That may be true Cecil but it is a lousy antenna.
The conclusion of the article infers that lumped loads
can be equated to distributed loads which we all know
is an error.
One of the requirements for radiation is that the
radiators surface is not enclosed. A lumped load
does not accomplish that.Usually when Richard
posts on a thread it is usually a death knell
for any further communication.
With you replying to him in some way this thread
may stay alive for a while. You will notice that
he did not identify "it" that apparently was used
before Marconi came along.He also talks of long discussion
of this "dipole" of Queen Victoria which as you know is a
figment of his imagination.A replacement for it.
He is just a childish idiot looking for some sort
of recognition who cannot communicate.

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:47:36 -0800 (PST), art
wrote:

On 26 Nov, 08:55, Cecil Moore wrote:
Richard Clark wrote:
"It" is called a dipole. 'It" has already been done.

he did not identify "it" that apparently was used
before Marconi came along.He also talks of long discussion
of this "dipole" of Queen Victoria which as you know is a
figment of his imagination.

Hi Arthur,

We can all appreciate how you rejected all things British when you
emigrated. Consult history to observe that Hertz (not a British
subject) invented the loop antenna during Victoria's reign.

Others may be equally ignorant of early RF work, but it was a simple
google of "Hertz" and "Queen Victoria" to arrive at:
"Marconi was giving wireless reports to the mainland from the
Kingstown Regatta, from distances of 5 to 10 miles out to sea.
And sending Queen Victoria reports concerning the health of
her son, the Prince of Wales, who was recovering from a
knee injury as he watched the regatta from the royal yacht."

And, as we are all well aware, Hertz did not design, build, and
operate his antenna after the reign of Victoria.

This is all very elemental stuff.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

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On 26 Nov, 11:19, Richard Clark wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:47:36 -0800 (PST), art
wrote:

On 26 Nov, 08:55, Cecil Moore wrote:
Richard Clark wrote:
"It" is called a dipole. 'It" has already been done.
he did not identify "it" that apparently was used
before Marconi came along.He also talks of long discussion
of this "dipole" of Queen Victoria which as you know is a
figment of his imagination.

Hi Arthur,

We can all appreciate how you rejected all things British when you
emigrated. Consult history to observe that Hertz (not a British
subject) invented the loop antenna during Victoria's reign.

Others may be equally ignorant of early RF work, but it was a simple
google of "Hertz" and "Queen Victoria" to arrive at:
"Marconi was giving wireless reports to the mainland from the
Kingstown Regatta, from distances of 5 to 10 miles out to sea.
And sending Queen Victoria reports concerning the health of
her son, the Prince of Wales, who was recovering from a
knee injury as he watched the regatta from the royal yacht."

And, as we are all well aware, Hertz did not design, build, and
operate his antenna after the reign of Victoria.

This is all very elemental stuff.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

And this is ........"it"?
An antenna for........ 160M?
The antenna you state that has been talked about at length
somewhere on this newsgroup at a yet unknown location?
I will have no problem with the PTO since your fiction does
not persuede them in any way.From the getgo you have stated
that my antenna is pre known when for months you would not
acknowledge that a time variable could not be added to static law.
A fact that you now readily admit. All elemental stuff that defies
description of any sort and which exists only in your twisted mind
which you refuse to describe. You have to much faith that "all is
known"
and a equivalent antenna will pop out of the fog that you generate.
End of discussion. You have nothing new to add to keep my attention.
I can see now why they tried to lose your patent
aplication some years ago. The question arises is the
examiner who "found it" is still employed.

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:03:46 -0800 (PST), art
wrote:

On 26 Nov, 11:19, Richard Clark wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:47:36 -0800 (PST), art
wrote:

On 26 Nov, 08:55, Cecil Moore wrote:
Richard Clark wrote:
"It" is called a dipole. 'It" has already been done.
he did not identify "it" that apparently was used
before Marconi came along.He also talks of long discussion
of this "dipole" of Queen Victoria which as you know is a
figment of his imagination.

Hi Arthur,

We can all appreciate how you rejected all things British when you
emigrated. Consult history to observe that Hertz (not a British
subject) invented the loop antenna during Victoria's reign.

Others may be equally ignorant of early RF work, but it was a simple
google of "Hertz" and "Queen Victoria" to arrive at:
"Marconi was giving wireless reports to the mainland from the
Kingstown Regatta, from distances of 5 to 10 miles out to sea.
And sending Queen Victoria reports concerning the health of
her son, the Prince of Wales, who was recovering from a
knee injury as he watched the regatta from the royal yacht."

And, as we are all well aware, Hertz did not design, build, and
operate his antenna after the reign of Victoria.

This is all very elemental stuff.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

And this is ........"it"?

Hi Arthur,

Since you've gone away, the Brits speak a more Americanized form of
English that is commonly expressed right here in these postings.

"It" being one of those difficult words is not our problem so much as
yours. Consult a dictionary you feel comfortable with.

An antenna for........ 160M?

Hertz, Marconi and the rest would have considered that shortwave and
scaled down. The operative word here is "scaled." There is nothing
new about an antenna coming in different sizes.

The antenna you state that has been talked about at length
somewhere on this newsgroup at a yet unknown location?

I will admit that your indifference to antenna discussion in other
threads contributes to your suffering from the illusion of having
something novel - seeing you have such a difficult time describing it
here.

I will have no problem with the PTO

They don't have to sell it to anyone!

However, I do appreciate you are still reading my missives. :-)

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC