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Richard Clark wrote:
kg/(s·m²) One needs to multiply by the area under consideration to obtain the total momentum which is conserved. It's the same as multiplying the Poynting vector by the area under consideration to obtain the total energy. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:20:10 -0600, Cecil Moore
were Cecil's dignity was not conserved, wrote: If we carry out the math of your own answer, it renders units in your terms to: (watts/m²)/(m/s)² or ((kg·m²/s³)/m²)/(m/s)² or kg/(s·m²) One needs to multiply by the area under consideration to obtain the total momentum which is conserved. Which, of course, yields: kg/s which is not momentum, but oddly enough the units one might use in describing how fast his bath tub was filling with photons. :-) Oh well, third time's a charm! Keep fumbling with the conservation of dignity, and eventually you might bumble into a job with Anderson Consulting doing Enron's books. |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:34:14 -0800, Richard Clark
wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 05:20:10 -0600, Cecil Moore were Cecil's dignity was not conserved, wrote: If we carry out the math of your own answer, it renders units in your terms to: (watts/m²)/(m/s)² or ((kg·m²/s³)/m²)/(m/s)² or kg/(s·m²) One needs to multiply by the area under consideration to obtain the total momentum which is conserved. Which, of course, yields: kg/s which is not momentum, but oddly enough the units one might use in describing how fast his bath tub was filling with photons. :-) Oh well, third time's a charm! Keep fumbling with the conservation of dignity, and eventually you might bumble into a job with Anderson Consulting doing Enron's books. Hi All, Well, no point in waiting for another rationalization when I am perfectly capable of filling that in for Cec' (and more entertaining than him when I do). Let's see if I can pull together a good old-boy drawl and a scrub of the boot toe in the dirt: "One needs to multiply by the volume under consideration to obtain the total momentum which is conserved!" Umm, yes, if your Xeroxed authors need that much help in you describing what they must have meant, but didn't say, then throwing in previously undisclosed terms might do the trick. However, looking aside from this obvious self-serving manipulation of the books (Anderson would be proud, in a perverted sense) it then gives us a third dimension of meters (the one you will have suckered into the equation) which is also a time specification (and this would then be called not Momentum, but Impulse, which does carry the same units but is the Integration over time). "Yes! Of course! This is called the Conservation of Impulse! It is EXACTLY what my references meant to say...." And then we return to an observation I made earlier about: The short journey was described by the term "dt". Ah, suffering the dt's. As Ed McMahon would prompt Johnny: "Just how short was that journey?" My guess it will either be too short to do the job, or much too large to be true. and we had been left holding the bag once again with asking how big dt is? Which, of course, also flummoxed Cecil (his having not yet had the epiphany of what his references "meant to say" but left unsaid). Some might begin to wonder how they earned a salary in the career of teaching. And to whip a dead horse, I also said: This thread should be called: "Supposition" or "Imposition" or "Superstition" To the group, Sorry for having unleashed yet another law of conservation that will undoubtedly yield 100s of postings of "proofs" that in and of themselves will actually contain no intellectual nourishment. Next week: "The Conservation of Radiation Buoyancy" 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
Umm, yes, if your Xeroxed authors need that much help in you describing what they must have meant, but didn't say, then throwing in previously undisclosed terms might do the trick. I probably misspelled a word also, Richard, so you can also jump on that with all four feet. Of course, it should have been "volume" instead of "area". It's a mental mistake that is easy to make and it certainly not the same magnitude of your mistake of declaring that reflections from non- reflective glass are brighter than the surface of the sun. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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Richard Clark wrote:
Which, of course, yields: kg/s which is not momentum, ... You made a mistake somewhere, Richard. The equation I gave is a *volume density, not an area density* so you are one 'm' short. You should have gotten kg*m/s -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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