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On Dec 6, 5:19 pm, Jim Kelley wrote:
Among the things evidently manifested by an alleged "IQ of 168" are a
narcisitic overestimate of ones own abilities and a compulsive need to
demonstrate same.

What does "its current maximum is not caused by standing waves" mean
to someone with an "IQ of 168"?

ac6xg


IQ doesn't mean a whole lot to me.. I've also been tested in
the same appx 160+ range.. Big deal.. I'm still basically a redneck
dumbass because I never applied myself much in school.
I hated school actually, and snuck away every chance I got... :/
I sure never had any interest in trying to join Mensa.
What do Mensa groups do anyway? I'm fairly sure whatever they
do would be boring to me...
MK


I went along to a couple of meetings many years ago. Full of under achievers
with high IQ's complaining how they weren't being recognised or credited in
their exams/career/promotion ladder/etc.

You can coast along with a high enough IQ without having to work too hard,
but it takes hard work and dedication to achieve anything worthwhile. The
top people anywhere in the world are not the smartest, but they learned to
use what they have to the maximum and put the hours in. If you expect a high
IQ to grant you a short cut to the top, it won't and there are a whole lot
of only slightly less intelligent people who know just enough and have a
vested interest to stop you from getting there.

Mensa is merely a self congratulatory society for smart people who lack the
drive to succeed. But don't let that stop you from joining so long as all
you expect is the chance of some (reasonably) intelligent conversation at
social functions.

Well it didn't match up to my standards (or the intelligence that is
displayed on r.r.a.a.) so I didn't bother renewing my subscription when it
expired.

Cheers all,

Mike GOULI

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"Mike Kaliski" wrote in

I went along to a couple of meetings many years ago. Full of under
achievers with high IQ's complaining how they weren't being recognised
or credited in their exams/career/promotion ladder/etc.


Intelligence is like talent. It is a gift.

What you do with it is what is important. Just because you have one or the
other is almost irrelevant if you don't have the other tools needed to be
sucessful.

I feel like such a piker here - I'm only 150........


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Mike Coslo wrote:
I feel like such a piker here - I'm only 150........


There may be hope. My IQ went up after I took a
graduate course in the design of IQ tests. :-)
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
I feel like such a piker here - I'm only 150........


There may be hope. My IQ went up after I took a
graduate course in the design of IQ tests. :-)


Ahhh, "test smart!", yep, that helps! ;-)

Regards,
JS
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Mike Coslo wrote:
"Mike Kaliski" wrote in

I went along to a couple of meetings many years ago. Full of under
achievers with high IQ's complaining how they weren't being recognised
or credited in their exams/career/promotion ladder/etc.


Intelligence is like talent. It is a gift.

What you do with it is what is important. Just because you have one or the
other is almost irrelevant if you don't have the other tools needed to be
sucessful.

I feel like such a piker here - I'm only 150........


- 73 de Mike N3LI -


That's o.k. It just means you think less like Terman than some of the
others in this group do.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH


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Tom Donaly wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
"Mike Kaliski" wrote in

I went along to a couple of meetings many years ago. Full of under
achievers with high IQ's complaining how they weren't being recognised
or credited in their exams/career/promotion ladder/etc.


Intelligence is like talent. It is a gift.

What you do with it is what is important. Just because you have one or
the other is almost irrelevant if you don't have the other tools
needed to be sucessful.

I feel like such a piker here - I'm only 150........


- 73 de Mike N3LI -


That's o.k. It just means you think less like Terman than some of the
others in this group do.



I was a little shocked to read his bio.

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Mike Coslo wrote:
"Mike Kaliski" wrote in

I went along to a couple of meetings many years ago. Full of under
achievers with high IQ's complaining how they weren't being recognised
or credited in their exams/career/promotion ladder/etc.


Intelligence is like talent. It is a gift.


It can be more like a curse. There's nothing quite like a number of
teachers telling Junior's parents that Junior is gifted.

What you do with it is what is important. Just because you have one or the
other is almost irrelevant if you don't have the other tools needed to be
sucessful.

I feel like such a piker here - I'm only 150........


You don't look that old, Mike.

Dave K8MN
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Dave Heil wrote:

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It can be more like a curse. There's nothing quite like a number of
teachers telling Junior's parents that Junior is gifted.
...
Dave K8MN


WOW, deja vu, I have seen parents beat down children because the lesser
intellect-ed parent feels threatened, lessened, unimportant (and
usually, rightly so)--this is a sorry thing to watch in a workplace. To
watch it occur in a family is nothing less than utterly disgusting.

So much opposed to the wholesome and functional family which devotes all
to the importance of the individual and encouragement of the youngsters
to out achieve the parents ...

Where was/is child protective services when the kids need 'em?

If one is a control freak, keeping silent on these affairs allows one to
keep their illness hidden ... the terms you use are a dead give away.

JS
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John Smith wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

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It can be more like a curse. There's nothing quite like a number of
teachers telling Junior's parents that Junior is gifted.
...
Dave K8MN


WOW, deja vu, I have seen parents beat down children because the lesser
intellect-ed parent feels threatened, lessened, unimportant (and
usually, rightly so)--this is a sorry thing to watch in a workplace. To
watch it occur in a family is nothing less than utterly disgusting.


Wow, "John", you managed to read in some things never written by me. I
wrote nothing of parents being threatened, lessened or feeling
unimportant. I've never watched any parents exhibiting such practices
in their or a child's workplace either.

The curse is that the parents often place unreasonable expectations for
success on a child marked as gifted. You must feel like a fool right
about now.

So much opposed to the wholesome and functional family which devotes all
to the importance of the individual and encouragement of the youngsters
to out achieve the parents ...


What is so much opposed, "John"?

Where was/is child protective services when the kids need 'em?


Why would such an agency be needed, "John"?

If one is a control freak, keeping silent on these affairs allows one to
keep their illness hidden ... the terms you use are a dead give away.


I think you might have been better served not to comment on things not
written, "John".

JS

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Dave Heil wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote:
"Mike Kaliski" wrote in

I went along to a couple of meetings many years ago. Full of under
achievers with high IQ's complaining how they weren't being recognised
or credited in their exams/career/promotion ladder/etc.


Intelligence is like talent. It is a gift.


It can be more like a curse. There's nothing quite like a number of
teachers telling Junior's parents that Junior is gifted.

What you do with it is what is important. Just because you have one or
the other is almost irrelevant if you don't have the other tools
needed to be sucessful.

I feel like such a piker here - I'm only 150........


You don't look that old, Mike.


I would be younger, but I was sick a lot as a kid....

- 73 de Mike N3LI -


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