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Old December 19th 07, 08:32 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
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Gene Fuller wrote:
If the antenna current was referenced to the source current, the
reported antenna current phase would *not* change when the source phase
was changed.


This gives a whole new meaning to "referenced". The
antenna currents are phase-locked to the source current.
That's about as good a reference as one can get - being
phase-locked. You, like Richard C., are obviously just
pulling my leg.
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:
If the antenna current was referenced to the source current, the
reported antenna current phase would *not* change when the source
phase was changed.


This gives a whole new meaning to "referenced". The
antenna currents are phase-locked to the source current.
That's about as good a reference as one can get - being
phase-locked. You, like Richard C., are obviously just
pulling my leg.


Sleep on it. You may feel better in the morning.
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On Dec 19, 3:32 pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
Gene Fuller wrote:
If the antenna current was referenced to the source current, the
reported antenna current phase would *not* change when the source phase
was changed.


This gives a whole new meaning to "referenced". The
antenna currents are phase-locked to the source current.
That's about as good a reference as one can get - being
phase-locked. You, like Richard C., are obviously just
pulling my leg.


Try a non-electronic example. If all the dimensions on my
house are referenced to the left front corner, when I move
the left front corner (along with the rest of the house),
none of the numerical values change.

If the dimensions are referenced to the fire hydrant, all the
measurements change by the same amount after the move.

This is your opportunity to demonstrate that you are not
like your "gurus" who never admit mistakes.

Or we could have a fun discussion about Mulroney who
recently said ""The most difficult thing in life, I think, is to
admit one's mistakes . . . ". Clearly Mulroney is not like
the rest of us who make enough mistakes that we have
plenty of practice admitting them. Oh wait. Maybe he
makes them, but just refuses to admit them. Hmmmm.

....Keith
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Keith Dysart wrote:
Try a non-electronic example.


OK, what is the *reference interest rate* for an
adjustable rate mortgage? An ever changing prime
rate?

References do not have to be fixed. I was using
the EZNEC source current as the reference. I rarely
ever change that current away from the default
value of 1 amp at 0 degrees.

This is your opportunity to demonstrate that you are not
like your "gurus" who never admit mistakes.


I freely admit that the definition of "reference" that
I was using is different from the definition that others
could choose. It was a mistake not to better define the
word before I used it. However, I did state that I was
using the EZNEC default current as my reference and
nobody objected to that statement at the time.
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