Cecil Moore wrote:
Tom Donaly wrote:
If you know how to do it, Cecil, don't be coy about it. Just state
your case and be done with it. Since you already stated that
the total electrical length is 90 degrees, you're just asking me
to prove your point. Do it yourself, and then I'll tell you
whether I agree with you or not.

Does that mean you don't know how to do it?

I already did it on another thread, Tom. Adding 43 degrees
of Z0=600 ohm feedline to the 10 degrees of Z0=100 ohm
feedline will turn the stub into an electrical 1/4
wavelength (90 degree) open stub. And that's exactly
how base-loaded mobile antennas work.

It will, will it? I'm waiting for you to prove it. Do you
really expect it to be resonant at the right frequency?
This is getting tiresome, Cecil. I guess you think that
stating things over and over again will make them come
true. Oh, well, it's my fault. I shouldn't waste my time
trying to get blood out of a turnip.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

Tom Donaly wrote:

...
It will, will it? I'm waiting for you to prove it. Do you
really expect it to be resonant at the right frequency?
This is getting tiresome, Cecil. I guess you think that
stating things over and over again will make them come
true. Oh, well, it's my fault. I shouldn't waste my time
trying to get blood out of a turnip.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

You mean at the frequency where the 600 line length is 53 degrees and
the 100 line 10 degrees length ... well, I guess that already answers
your own question, doesn't it?--but then, you should have already knew
that ...

JS

John Smith wrote:
Tom Donaly wrote:

...
It will, will it? I'm waiting for you to prove it. Do you
really expect it to be resonant at the right frequency?
This is getting tiresome, Cecil. I guess you think that
stating things over and over again will make them come
true. Oh, well, it's my fault. I shouldn't waste my time
trying to get blood out of a turnip.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

You mean at the frequency where the 600 line length is 53 degrees and
the 100 line 10 degrees length ... well, I guess that already answers
your own question, doesn't it?--but then, you should have already knew
that ...

JS

I'm beginning to see why Roy plonked you, Smith, or whatever your
present pseudonym is. It looks as if you've been taking opacity
lessons from Art.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

John Smith wrote:
You mean at the frequency where the 600 line length is 53 degrees and
the 100 line 10 degrees length ... well, I guess that already answers
your own question, doesn't it?--but then, you should have already knew
that ...

Make that 43 degrees instead of 53 degrees.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:

...
Make that 43 degrees instead of 53 degrees.

Sorry, don't know if that is brain atrophy from age or the 20mg
hydrocodone the doc has me on for the fractured bone and arthritis in
the spine--laying down a bike at ~60mph is something better left for the
younger generation.

Can't seem to find my glasses after I lay 'em down--wife claims she has
already given me something, I claim no, then find 'em in my pocket.

By the way, one week in the hospital cost: Hospital $80,000, emergency
room $1,900, ambulance $1

John Smith wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:

...
Make that 43 degrees instead of 53 degrees.

Sorry, don't know if that is brain atrophy from age or the 20mg
hydrocodone the doc has me on for the fractured bone and arthritis in
the spine--laying down a bike at ~60mph is something better left for the
younger generation.

Can't seem to find my glasses after I lay 'em down--wife claims she has
already given me something, I claim no, then find 'em in my pocket.

By the way, one week in the hospital cost: Hospital $80,000, emergency
room $1,900, ambulance $1,500, etc.

Oh yeah, and then there is constantly hitting the wrong key and sending
email early ...

Sorry guys/gals ... keep your medical PAID UP!

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
By the way, one week in the hospital cost: Hospital $80,000, emergency
room $1,900, ambulance $1

I'm sorry that happened. Get well quick.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
By the way, one week in the hospital cost: Hospital $80,000,
emergency room $1,900, ambulance $1

I'm sorry that happened. Get well quick.

Off topic, I know you have a harley though ...

Had putts since I was 16, never had an accident out of the dirt, nothing
ever serious, etc.

Be careful on that monster of yours--wishing ya all the luck--and, oh
yeah, TAKE CARE on that road! They ARE out to get ya ... ;-)

Regards,
JS

Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
You mean at the frequency where the 600 line length is 53 degrees and
the 100 line 10 degrees length ... well, I guess that already answers
your own question, doesn't it?--but then, you should have already knew
that ...

Make that 43 degrees instead of 53 degrees.

Some, like me, might like to review some info like this, easily
digest-able ...:

http://courses.ece.uiuc.edu/ece450/N...sionLines2.pdf

Regards,
JS

Tom Donaly wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
I already did it on another thread, Tom. Adding 43 degrees
of Z0=600 ohm feedline to the 10 degrees of Z0=100 ohm
feedline will turn the stub into an electrical 1/4
wavelength (90 degree) open stub. And that's exactly
how base-loaded mobile antennas work.

It will, will it? I'm waiting for you to prove it. Do you
really expect it to be resonant at the right frequency?

I have proved it in a reply to Dan and verified it
with MicroSmith. I don't know what else you are
asking for. Yes, it will resonate at the design
frequency. Are you incapable of those simple
calculations? Note that everything is rounded
off to the nearest degree.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com