Ignoring for now the unsupported claims art made earlier in
this same post of his, here are some comments relating to this
incomplete and curious sentence fragment he posted...

"So with science being what it is, today where we have computor
programs built around Maxwell's laws that can be used to deduce
radiator dimensions with respect to shape and elevation positions
when maximum horizontal polarisation is required."

and

"Thus modern day computors provide the answer as a full wavelength
radiator that is at an angle to the earth of just under 80 degrees."
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art,

Theoretical physics, many decades of accurate field measurements,
and the free-field NEC data I posted earlier in this thread do not support
your intuition / belief about this.

With all due respect, art, you need to educate yourself further on such
topics
if you wish to avoid the criticism of your views such as haunt you here.

RF

On Dec 6, 9:19 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:


Hi Richard

Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face

Derek

"Derek" wrote
Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face
____________

Derek,

Not to be abrasive -- the technically accurate content of your post is
noted.

No doubt the readers of your post who believe as you do will be happy,
never mind the science here.

RF

On Dec 6, 9:50 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"Derek" wrote Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face

____________

Derek,

Not to be abrasive -- the technically accurate content of your post is
noted.

No doubt the readers of your post who believe as you do will be happy,
never mind the science here.

RF

On Dec 6, 9:50 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"Derek" wrote Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face

____________

Derek,

Not to be abrasive -- the technically accurate content of your post is
noted.

No doubt the readers of your post who believe as you do will be happy,
never mind the science here.

RF

Hi Richard
I say again try the key in the lock, you may be
surprised.

Derek

Derek wrote:
On Dec 6, 9:19 am, "Richard Fry" wrote:


Hi Richard

Art has given the "key" try turning it in the lock before making
comments as to whether it works or not, then wipe the egg off your
face

Derek

Art is giving away LSD? Or mushrooms?

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

On Dec 6, 11:43 am, Roy Lewallen wrote:


Hi Roy
You have the program, do as Art say's and tell us what it
comes up with.

Derek

Derek wrote:

Hi Roy
You have the program, do as Art say's and tell us what it
comes up with.

Derek

Sorry, I haven't taken orders since I became a civilian again nearly 40
years ago. Why don't you?

I don't have the right kind of program, anyway. EZNEC doesn't have
checkboxes to select "Gaussian", "equilibrium" and photon velocity. I
think Art must use a special version of MN which takes all those factors
into account.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL

Derek wrote in news:7437a21d-524e-43c8-95b1-
:

On Dec 6, 11:43 am, Roy Lewallen wrote:


Hi Roy
You have the program, do as Art say's and tell us what it
comes up with.

Doesn't work that way, sir.

If I say that antennas work by shooting little turds off the ends of the
wires, it isn't Roy's job to prove it, it's mine.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On Dec 6, 7:13 pm, Mike Coslo wrote:
Derek wrote in news:7437a21d-524e-43c8-95b1-
:

On Dec 6, 11:43 am, Roy Lewallen wrote:

Hi Roy
You have the program, do as Art say's and tell us what it
comes up with.

Doesn't work that way, sir.

If I say that antennas work by shooting little turds off the ends of the
wires, it isn't Roy's job to prove it, it's mine.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

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MK