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Keith Dysart wrote:
On Jan 3, 1:07am, Mike Monett wrote: Keith, your model is not realistic. As you know, any signal you impose on a conductor will form an electromagnetic wave. This is the combination of electrostatic and electromagnetic fields, and it propagates at the normal velocity for that medium. However, electromagnetic waves do not interact with each other, and they cannot bounce off each other. That is the standard description, but it seems to have some weaknesses. No, there are no weaknesses. Maxwell's equations have stood the test of time. Recall that light from stars is electromagnetic. It tra vels many light-years before it reaches your eyes. If electromagnetic waves interacted, you would not be able to see individual stars they would merge into a blur. This would seem to me to depend on the nature of the interaction. Clearly the interaction represented by the term "bounce" (for lack of a better word) would have to be such as to not violate any of these observed behaviours. The term "bounce" means they interact. Electromagnetic signals do not interact. They superimpose. Each is completely unaware and unaffected by the other. Similarly, the signals reaching your antenna and traveling down the coax to your receiver do not interact with each other. As long as your receiver is not overloaded, the signals remain sep arate no matter how many stations are on the air at the moment. So the statement that like charges repel does not apply to electromagnetic waves, Q1. Are you saying that it is inappropriate to view a transmission line as distributed capacitance and inductance and analyze its behaviour using charge stored in the capacitance and moving in the inducatance? That is not what you are saying. You are ignoring the magnetic field. If such analysis is appropriate, then it seems to me that a pulse can be viewed as a chunk of charge moving down the line. Q2. Is this an appropriate view? No. You need to include the associated magnetic field. Q3. If so, then what happens when two such chunks of charge collide in the middle of the line? Electromagnetic signals do not collide. They superimpose. The existing analysis techniques tell us that no current ever flows at the mid-point of the line, this means no charge crosses the mid-point. Q4. Is this correct? That statement has no meaning. Q5. If no charge crosses the mid-point, then how do the pulses, made up of chunks of charge. pass the mid-point? The pulses are not chunks of charge. They are the combination of electrostatic and electromagnetic fields. You cannot separate the two. Q6. If they do not pass the mid-point, then what happens to them? That statement has no meaning. I have offerred a somewhat intuitive explanation. Your explanation does not work. Other explanations are welcome. Any explanation that does not involve charge will immediately cause me to ask Q1 again. Please study Maxwell's equations and how they are derived. Keith Regards, Mike Monett |
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