On 13 Jan, 17:00, Brian Kelly wrote:
On Jan 13, 9:31 am, art wrote:





On 12 Jan, 23:02, Dave Heil wrote:

art wrote:
At
the moment I do not have the smallest antenna for 160M on my tower
since the radiator is around 18 foot long and tipped at an angle to
reflect what the computer states. I suppose I will have to make one
that will fit into a 1 foot cubed carton to satisfy the term small.

That's great, Art. *How's it working out for you? *Did you work J5C over
the past couple of nights? *Did you snag G3JMJ's loud signal this evening?

I can load my 6m beam on 160m, but it doesn't work well at all. *I use a
slightly long inverted L with a series vacuum variable and nearly 6,000
feet of buried radials. *There's a three inch short, tapped coil to
ground at the feed point in order to match the antenna to the RG-213 I
feed it with. *The antenna isn't small and it isn't elegant.

I'm willing to listen to your ideas about how I can equal the signal
from that inverted L by using a much smaller antenna. *Why don't you
post information on such a creation?

Dave K8MN

Re Antennas and sharing. Checkout E ham forum
Art

Arthur don't be so silly. As a fellow over-the-edge old fart
mechanical engineer you've obviously missed some some fundamentals.

Back in the day the IEEE and the ASME came to an agreement: They
wouldn't fiddle with Mohr's Circles if we didn't fiddle with
electromagnetic wave mechanics. You're in violation Arthur so so knock
it off.

How many countries do you have confirmed on 160?

Brian w3rv- Hide quoted text -

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I am not in violation in my opinion. My theory may not be "exactly"
correct
as I have no way of looking at particles. But if you Google every
little bit, line by line it has enough agreed tangibles that it can
be taken as serious. You yourself know that I have been sharing the
details for a very, very long time. I also have shared everything
and described everything, nothing has been hidden and all explained
several times
Nobody has faulted anything one little bit! Pretty much all has been
the
slandering of me. I really do not understand that if this is a
newsgroup on antennas
why those knoweledgable in the state of the art instead of getting
angry with me doesn't debate it point by point where an error provides
a stop to the debate.
Ofcourse 'error' means so many different things with this group I
don't see a long thread.
I certainly do not have the patience to post thousands of times as
Cecil is able so I should easily be forces to go away as others have
done. Well, if you try very hard that I cannot take anymore. When you
have received an education one must always take advantage of it by
pursuit of the truth regardless of the regimen. I cannot see why I
should be expelled from intruding into physics by those you insist
that all is known about antennas otherwise you are a heritic.
Art

On Jan 13, 9:18 pm, art wrote:
On 13 Jan, 17:00, Brian Kelly wrote:



On Jan 13, 9:31 am, art wrote:

On 12 Jan, 23:02, Dave Heil wrote:

art wrote:
At
the moment I do not have the smallest antenna for 160M on my tower
since the radiator is around 18 foot long and tipped at an angle to
reflect what the computer states. I suppose I will have to make one
that will fit into a 1 foot cubed carton to satisfy the term small.

That's great, Art. How's it working out for you? Did you work J5C over
the past couple of nights? Did you snag G3JMJ's loud signal this evening?

I can load my 6m beam on 160m, but it doesn't work well at all. I use a
slightly long inverted L with a series vacuum variable and nearly 6,000
feet of buried radials. There's a three inch short, tapped coil to
ground at the feed point in order to match the antenna to the RG-213 I
feed it with. The antenna isn't small and it isn't elegant.

I'm willing to listen to your ideas about how I can equal the signal
from that inverted L by using a much smaller antenna. Why don't you
post information on such a creation?

Dave K8MN

Re Antennas and sharing. Checkout E ham forum
Art

Arthur don't be so silly. As a fellow over-the-edge old fart
mechanical engineer you've obviously missed some some fundamentals.

Back in the day the IEEE and the ASME came to an agreement: They
wouldn't fiddle with Mohr's Circles if we didn't fiddle with
electromagnetic wave mechanics. You're in violation Arthur so so knock
it off.

How many countries do you have confirmed on 160?

Brian w3rv- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am not in violation in my opinion. My theory may not be "exactly"
correct
as I have no way of looking at particles. But if you Google every
little bit, line by line it has enough agreed tangibles that it can
be taken as serious. You yourself know that I have been sharing the
details for a very, very long time. I also have shared everything
and described everything, nothing has been hidden and all explained
several times
Nobody has faulted anything one little bit! Pretty much all has been
the
slandering of me. I really do not understand that if this is a
newsgroup on antennas
why those knoweledgable in the state of the art instead of getting
angry with me doesn't debate it point by point where an error provides
a stop to the debate.
Ofcourse 'error' means so many different things with this group I
don't see a long thread.
I certainly do not have the patience to post thousands of times as
Cecil is able so I should easily be forces to go away as others have

A few years back I worked Cecil on 7.037 and he had

done. Well, if you try very hard that I cannot take anymore. When you
have received an education one must always take advantage of it by
pursuit of the truth regardless of the regimen. I cannot see why I
should be expelled from intruding into physics by those you insist
that all is known about antennas otherwise you are a heritic.
Art

On Jan 13, 9:39 pm, Brian Kelly wrote:
On Jan 13, 9:18 pm, art wrote:



On 13 Jan, 17:00, Brian Kelly wrote:

On Jan 13, 9:31 am, art wrote:

On 12 Jan, 23:02, Dave Heil wrote:

art wrote:
At
the moment I do not have the smallest antenna for 160M on my tower
since the radiator is around 18 foot long and tipped at an angle to
reflect what the computer states. I suppose I will have to make one
that will fit into a 1 foot cubed carton to satisfy the term small.

That's great, Art. How's it working out for you? Did you work J5C over
the past couple of nights? Did you snag G3JMJ's loud signal this evening?

I can load my 6m beam on 160m, but it doesn't work well at all. I use a
slightly long inverted L with a series vacuum variable and nearly 6,000
feet of buried radials. There's a three inch short, tapped coil to
ground at the feed point in order to match the antenna to the RG-213 I
feed it with. The antenna isn't small and it isn't elegant.

I'm willing to listen to your ideas about how I can equal the signal
from that inverted L by using a much smaller antenna. Why don't you
post information on such a creation?

Dave K8MN

Re Antennas and sharing. Checkout E ham forum
Art

Arthur don't be so silly. As a fellow over-the-edge old fart
mechanical engineer you've obviously missed some some fundamentals.

Back in the day the IEEE and the ASME came to an agreement: They
wouldn't fiddle with Mohr's Circles if we didn't fiddle with
electromagnetic wave mechanics. You're in violation Arthur so so knock
it off.

How many countries do you have confirmed on 160?

Brian w3rv- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am not in violation in my opinion. My theory may not be "exactly"
correct
as I have no way of looking at particles. But if you Google every
little bit, line by line it has enough agreed tangibles that it can
be taken as serious. You yourself know that I have been sharing the
details for a very, very long time. I also have shared everything
and described everything, nothing has been hidden and all explained
several times
Nobody has faulted anything one little bit! Pretty much all has been
the
slandering of me. I really do not understand that if this is a
newsgroup on antennas
why those knoweledgable in the state of the art instead of getting
angry with me doesn't debate it point by point where an error provides
a stop to the debate.
Ofcourse 'error' means so many different things with this group I
don't see a long thread.
I certainly do not have the patience to post thousands of times as
Cecil is able so I should easily be forces to go away as others have

.. . . A few years back I worked Cecil on 7.037 and he had a quite
respectable signal here which leads me to have some significant
respect for his abilities as an antenna injuneer.

done. Well, if you try very hard that I cannot take anymore. When you
have received an education one must always take advantage of it by
pursuit of the truth regardless of the regimen. I cannot see why I
should be expelled from intruding into physics by those you insist
that all is known about antennas otherwise you are a heritic.

Next time you see your doctor ask him about Lithium.

Art

w3rv

On Jan 13, 8:18 pm, art wrote:

Nobody has faulted anything one little bit!

I can fault almost everything that spews out of your keyboard,
but I don't have the heart to constantly shred the delusions of a
whiny old fart.
And I'm basically a dumb ass uneducated redneck.
Doesn't that bother you, being you are so superior to us
meager amateurs?

As one example, your spew of needing a full wavelength radiator
in order to be one with the force... What a crock of dung...
I can whip you more with my little stick if you decide that you
like it..
Pick one of your goofball theories and expound to your hearts
delight.
I bet this uneducated dumbass can rip it to shreds with only a
small amount of pondering needed.
Try me, if you don't believe it. I suspect you will be chicken
though.
MK

On 13 Jan, 19:11, wrote:
On Jan 13, 8:18 pm, art wrote:

Nobody has faulted anything one little bit!

I can fault almost everything that spews out of your keyboard,
but I don't have the heart to constantly shred the delusions of a
whiny old fart.
And I'm basically a dumb ass uneducated redneck.
Doesn't that bother you, being you are so superior to us
meager amateurs?

As one example, your spew of needing a full wavelength radiator
in order to be one with the force... What a crock of dung...
I can whip you more with my little stick if you decide that you
like it..
Pick one of your goofball theories and expound to your hearts
delight.

I bet

Well I hope you make it a sizable wager and join others that might
want to
do same. You can a lot of money to buy all the antennas that you want.
Art




h.
MK

On Jan 13, 10:05 pm, art wrote:


Well I hope you make it a sizable wager and join others that might
want to
do same. You can a lot of money to buy all the antennas that you want.
Art

h.

MK

I make all my antennas. I don't have to buy them.
Also, where do you get the idea that gambling comes
into play here?
I don't live in Vegas, and 8 liners are illegal here.
When I hear of gaussian jibber jabber, I think of this..
http://home.comcast.net/~nm5k/gauss.jpg
In fact, I'm starting to wonder if you are not related
to this gentleman. Small size means nothing if
most of the power turns to heat. This even applies
to aliens.
MK