Derek wrote in
:

On what do you base that belief? Many of us have asked Art for some
input on building one of his antennas, and we don't get anything.
Heck, I'd even enjoy a picture, or a visit to the QTH to see
something being used. But we get nothing. I'm not a fan of faith
based engineering.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -


I have put my money where my mouth is.

Derek - placing of wagers is not an argument. I haven't partipated in
calling Art anything. It isn't a difficult thing to get a picture of this
antenna, I would even offer to post it on line.

It's simple really. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
show us the antennas, let us build them and test them. Let us compare them
to other antennas.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

On Jan 14, 12:38 pm, Mike Coslo wrote:
Derek wrote :

On what do you base that belief? Many of us have asked Art for some
input on building one of his antennas, and we don't get anything.
Heck, I'd even enjoy a picture, or a visit to the QTH to see
something being used. But we get nothing. I'm not a fan of faith
based engineering.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -

I have put my money where my mouth is.

Derek - placing of wagers is not an argument. I haven't partipated in
calling Art anything.

- 73 de Mike N3LI -


I did not intend to infer that you had, I just pointed out I was ready
to back my words

Derek

On 13 Jan, 19:11, wrote:
On Jan 13, 8:18 pm, art wrote:

Nobody has faulted anything one little bit!

I can fault almost everything that spews out of your keyboard,
but I don't have the heart to constantly shred the delusions of a
whiny old fart.
And I'm basically a dumb ass uneducated redneck.
Doesn't that bother you, being you are so superior to us
meager amateurs?

As one example, your spew of needing a full wavelength radiator
in order to be one with the force... What a crock of dung...
I can whip you more with my little stick if you decide that you
like it..
Pick one of your goofball theories and expound to your hearts
delight.

I bet

Well I hope you make it a sizable wager and join others that might
want to
do same. You can a lot of money to buy all the antennas that you want.
Art




h.
MK

On Jan 13, 10:05 pm, art wrote:


Well I hope you make it a sizable wager and join others that might
want to
do same. You can a lot of money to buy all the antennas that you want.
Art

h.

MK

I make all my antennas. I don't have to buy them.
Also, where do you get the idea that gambling comes
into play here?
I don't live in Vegas, and 8 liners are illegal here.
When I hear of gaussian jibber jabber, I think of this..
http://home.comcast.net/~nm5k/gauss.jpg
In fact, I'm starting to wonder if you are not related
to this gentleman. Small size means nothing if
most of the power turns to heat. This even applies
to aliens.
MK

art wrote:
On 12 Jan, 23:02, Dave Heil wrote:
art wrote:
At
the moment I do not have the smallest antenna for 160M on my tower
since the radiator is around 18 foot long and tipped at an angle to
reflect what the computer states. I suppose I will have to make one
that will fit into a 1 foot cubed carton to satisfy the term small.
That's great, Art. How's it working out for you? Did you work J5C over
the past couple of nights? Did you snag G3JMJ's loud signal this evening?

I can load my 6m beam on 160m, but it doesn't work well at all. I use a
slightly long inverted L with a series vacuum variable and nearly 6,000
feet of buried radials. There's a three inch short, tapped coil to
ground at the feed point in order to match the antenna to the RG-213 I
feed it with. The antenna isn't small and it isn't elegant.

I'm willing to listen to your ideas about how I can equal the signal
from that inverted L by using a much smaller antenna. Why don't you
post information on such a creation?

Re Antennas and sharing. Checkout E ham forum

I know what others have said, Art. I asked if you'd share your ideas.
You have often dealt in non-specifics. I'd like to see how you think a
small antenna can be made to equal the performance of the full-sized
inverted L.

Dave K8MN

On 13 Jan, 21:07, "AI4QJ" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

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"People can wager on a beetle race as far as I am concerned. But if I
am to be involved
I cannot gamble. * * * BUT.....
I am willing to pay a sizable entrance fee where the loser has to give
his fee to charity!
Let's roll"

Let's not. I'm not a gambling man either. I will say that a credible theory
that was repeatable would not require a Las Vegas style wager to demonstrate
the odds of its success.

Once again, what is the diameter of your 18 foot 160m antenna?

It was not to to demonstrate the odds of success from what I
read.Since he was backing that I was stating the truth it becomes
obvious that I also will come up with a amount of money which would go
to charity. I sir, am stating the truth
and will make a much smaller one if you make that one of the
conditions applied, or modify the existing one to meet same.
I suspect that others may be willing to join you from what I read.
Art

On 13 Jan, 21:17, "AI4QJ" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

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On 13 Jan, 12:33, "AI4QJ" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

...
On 12 Jan, 23:02, Dave Heil wrote:

art wrote:
At
the moment I do not have the smallest antenna for 160M on my tower
since the radiator is around 18 foot long and tipped at an angle to
reflect what the computer states. I suppose I will have to make one
that will fit into a 1 foot cubed carton to satisfy the term small.

That's great, Art. How's it working out for you? Did you work J5C over
the past couple of nights? Did you snag G3JMJ's loud signal this
evening?

I can load my 6m beam on 160m, but it doesn't work well at all. I use a
slightly long inverted L with a series vacuum variable and nearly 6,000
feet of buried radials. There's a three inch short, tapped coil to
ground at the feed point in order to match the antenna to the RG-213 I
feed it with. The antenna isn't small and it isn't elegant.

I'm willing to listen to your ideas about how I can equal the signal
from that inverted L by using a much smaller antenna. Why don't you
post information on such a creation?

Dave K8MN

"Re Antennas and sharing. Checkout E ham forum
Art"

OK, I went to e ham forum and found 1732 pages of articles. It does not
allow me to filter on art, unwin or diamagnetic. Could you help us out a
little? This is like trying to literally find a needle in a haystack.

AI4QJ- Hide quoted text -

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They are rated the top two threads at the present time ( yesterday)
I can't remember the titles or every thing that was written but as the
top articles of interest I don't think you can consider it as looking
for a needle.
Art

Nothing there. Not in the top 10 hottest or top 10 most recently active.
Must be a lot of constantly changing 'hottest' and 'recently active' forums
between yesterday and today. Guess I missed out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No.
The two hottest is what I was pointing to when I responded to the
other person. One is called 'How radiation is created' or something
like that. The other is the assistance I gave on a "homebrew antenna".
The first thread is what I initiated with the call sign KB9MZ. Both
still remain at the top of the hottest list and probably will still be
for the next couple of days. After which they may well stay on that
list anyway.
Art

Christopher Cox wrote:
It must upset you something fierce then to know that the founders of the
major Ivy league schools and some of the most wealthy and influential
people today all have a common trait, they do not hold a collage diploma.


As I have always said to my more highly educated colleagues:

"You either have to have a degree or be good at what you do to get a job
here."

They nod, agree, and to a person completely miss the double entendre'.

-73 de Mike N3LI -

Art wrote:
"I had no idea that standing and travelling waves was reserved for post
doctorial studies in America,---."

It isn`t. Just as elsewhere, electromagnetism and wave motion are
covered in freshman physics. Anything needed beyond simple algebra is
covered in the physics course itself. It includes the relationship of
classical physics to modern physics, emphasizing conservation laws,
concepts of waves, fields, and particles.

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI

On Jan 14, 8:49 am, Michael Coslo wrote:
Christopher Cox wrote:
It must upset you something fierce then to know that the founders of the
major Ivy league schools and some of the most wealthy and influential
people today all have a common trait, they do not hold a collage diploma.

As I have always said to my more highly educated colleagues:

"You either have to have a degree or be good at what you do to get a job
here."

They nod, agree, and to a person completely miss the double entendre'.

-73 de Mike N3LI -

You better watch it Michael or The Moderator is gonna GETCHA boy!

Hee!