Universal laws of the sciences
 

Dave Heil wrote:

...
...but a crackpot is generally a crackpot, whatever his IQ or
educational level. A great deal of useful information may be found
here. It is accompanied by a great deal of misinformation. Do you know
how to separate the wheat from the chaff?

Dave K8MN


Ed, NM2K


Yeah, stop dropping chaff in my damn wheat! ROFLOL

JS

Universal laws of the sciences
 

John Smith wrote:
Dave Heil wrote:

...
...but a crackpot is generally a crackpot, whatever his IQ or
educational level. A great deal of useful information may be found
here. It is accompanied by a great deal of misinformation. Do you
know how to separate the wheat from the chaff?


Yeah, stop dropping chaff in my damn wheat! ROFLOL

I've yet to advance any claims for an astounding new concept in the
field of antennas, "John". I'm always interested in the theoretical.
Most of my knowledge of antennas is in the practical. I don't feel as
if you are one who could teach me anything I don't already know on the
subject.

My exposure to you here and elsewhere reveals you to be an anonymous
fellow who boasts of 5KW amplifiers and of using high power on the
Citizens Band. You claim to be a teacher of some sort, but your English
skills are at the high school level and your knowledge of punctuation is
minimal.

Dave K8MN

Universal laws of the sciences
 

Dave Heil wrote:

...
I've yet to advance any claims for an astounding new concept in the
field of antennas, "John". I'm always interested in the theoretical.
Most of my knowledge of antennas is in the practical. I don't feel as
if you are one who could teach me anything I don't already know on the
subject.

My exposure to you here and elsewhere reveals you to be an anonymous
fellow who boasts of 5KW amplifiers and of using high power on the
Citizens Band. You claim to be a teacher of some sort, but your English
skills are at the high school level and your knowledge of punctuation is
minimal.

Dave K8MN


Ahh, Dave, you wear me out ...

Regards,
JS

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wrote in message
...
On Jan 18, 3:36 am, "Ed Cregger"
wrote:
snip

Many of you are far more educated than I, but many of you
demonstrate precisely why I chose not to be brainwashed
with
a formal education. Many cannot see past the end of their
noses, yet they insist upon laying down the law regarding
what is acceptable science and what is not. As though
anyone
actually knows anything at all.

snip

Let's not forget that one's educational level has nothing
to
do with native IQ.

Ed, NM2K

You are correct to say that education has nothing to do
with IQ.
Faraday had little formal training, yet his arduous work
is now
exalted by naming one of the basic electromagnetic laws
after him. But
I take issue with the idea that you can't actually know
anything at
all. For instance, electrodynamic theory was developed 150
years ago,
and the KNOWN successful results of that are numerous.

Newtonian mechanics held up well for hundreds of years. A
whole
industrial revolution was built on it. Yet some pesky
observations by
Michelson and Morley regarding the invariant speed of
light found it
wanting. Relativistic mechanics subsumed Newtonian
mechanics, but
Einstein didn't invalidate Newton. I believe the
mathematical term
"embedding" applies.

I am currently re-studying the original theory of Maxwell,
et. al.,
with the intent of finding some chink in the armor. Tesla
reported
longitudinal electromagnetic wave phenomena, which
contradicts the now-
standard theory that EM waves can ONLY be transversal.
Using Maxwell's
original quaternion equations, before Heviside simplified
them into
the now-standard vector form, one can derive longitudinal
wave
components. If those exist, does that prove you don't know
how to
operate a ham radio? No, it just means you're radiating
something in
addition to what you expect.

You CAN know something and apply it. You just need to
realize that
what you know isn't complete, and never can be.


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I do not disagree with a thing that you have said.


Ed Cregger

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On 19 Jan, 10:56, "AI4QJ" wrote:
wrote in message

ne

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le24.htm

I have just got around to reading just the intro
of the above URL. Later I will digest the rest of
the lesson.
What struck me was how deftly the author pointed out
where pseudo experts have dominated science thru the ages
such that it reflects the poles of the many led by the few.
It shows time and time again that science is a popularity
contest where the so called "in crowd" of of self rightious
people have been able to thwat the advances of science of
the past centuries. Gallilao comes to mind as does Green
of Nottingham and Heavieside of Clapton and ofcourse my favorite
Gauss. We are seeing the same thing here on this newsgroup
where passed tenents are held on to the death by those
addicted to the passed. Naturally I think about my own case.
I presented a trail of science where each step can be examined in
depth
on Googles when reading the achievements of others.
There is not one point on the trail that prior science does not
repute.
It fills a void with respect to radiation where presently there
is nothing else presented to fill this gap of knoweledge.
Yet we can see how humans react to change with out a morsel
of evidence to contradict the new are able to gather a baying crowd
similar to that around madame Guillotine to view the death of nobles.
Ofcourse at that time academia had not closed its society off
from the outside where now they are better equipped against the poll
makers
such that the only efforts left to derail in science are those
generated outside the
academic world and also judged by those who are also excluded by the
closed society
as a unproven value. Vincent was different. He generated his skunk
works from the inside of academia who were desperate to include
themselves into the closed.science of academia, Where they could
supply information that would not and does not pass the time of day in
academia.
I read a tale once that a man hid from facts by hiding in a garbage
can where he suddenly realised he was closed off from all the worries
of the world. Where the temperature was warm and food tho spoiled was
available for the picking. Ofcourse there was the smell but what did
it really matter as nobody else was around that could smell and thus
insult him.
In this group there is evidence that some of its members have emerged
from their former places of confort and thus show that even in speech
does the former odour prevail.
Humans must get away from this syndrome of resistance to change and
regain its inherrant inquisitiveness.
Very best regards to all
Art Unwin....KB9MZ...XG(uk)

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"art" wrote in message
...
On 19 Jan, 10:56, "AI4QJ" wrote:
wrote in message

ne

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le24.htm

I have just got around to reading just the intro
of the above URL. Later I will digest the rest of
the lesson.
What struck me was how deftly the author pointed out
where pseudo experts have dominated science thru the ages
such that it reflects the poles of the many led by the
few.
It shows time and time again that science is a popularity
contest where the so called "in crowd" of of self
rightious
people have been able to thwat the advances of science of
the past centuries. Gallilao comes to mind as does Green
of Nottingham and Heavieside of Clapton and ofcourse my
favorite
Gauss. We are seeing the same thing here on this newsgroup
where passed tenents are held on to the death by those
addicted to the passed. Naturally I think about my own
case.
I presented a trail of science where each step can be
examined in
depth
on Googles when reading the achievements of others.
There is not one point on the trail that prior science
does not
repute.
It fills a void with respect to radiation where presently
there
is nothing else presented to fill this gap of knoweledge.
Yet we can see how humans react to change with out a
morsel
of evidence to contradict the new are able to gather a
baying crowd
similar to that around madame Guillotine to view the death
of nobles.
Ofcourse at that time academia had not closed its society
off
from the outside where now they are better equipped
against the poll
makers
such that the only efforts left to derail in science are
those
generated outside the
academic world and also judged by those who are also
excluded by the
closed society
as a unproven value. Vincent was different. He generated
his skunk
works from the inside of academia who were desperate to
include
themselves into the closed.science of academia, Where they
could
supply information that would not and does not pass the
time of day in
academia.
I read a tale once that a man hid from facts by hiding in
a garbage
can where he suddenly realised he was closed off from all
the worries
of the world. Where the temperature was warm and food tho
spoiled was
available for the picking. Ofcourse there was the smell
but what did
it really matter as nobody else was around that could
smell and thus
insult him.
In this group there is evidence that some of its members
have emerged
from their former places of confort and thus show that
even in speech
does the former odour prevail.
Humans must get away from this syndrome of resistance to
change and
regain its inherrant inquisitiveness.
Very best regards to all
Art Unwin....KB9MZ...XG(uk)



-------------


Do you suppose that red blood cells look down their noses at
white blood cells? After all, there are far more red blood
cells than white blood cells. Numbers alone would indicate
that they are superior. Perhaps the white blood cells feel
that they are superior because there are fewer of them.
Plus, they have the noblest task of all, that of defending
the world/body.

Without either type, our bodies would cease to function.

So it is with various types of people. We need them all.
Each have their function. None are expendable.


Ed, NM2K

Universal laws of the sciences
 

On 20 Jan, 09:21, "Ed Cregger" wrote:
"art" wrote in message

...





On 19 Jan, 10:56, "AI4QJ" wrote:
wrote in message

ne

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le24.htm

I have just got around to reading just the intro
of the above URL. Later I will digest the rest of
the lesson.
What struck me was how deftly the author pointed out
where pseudo experts have dominated science thru the ages
such that it reflects the poles of the many led by the
few.
It shows time and time again that science is a popularity
contest where the so called "in crowd" of of self
rightious
people have been able to thwat the advances of science of
the past centuries. Gallilao comes to mind as does Green
of Nottingham and Heavieside of Clapton and ofcourse my
favorite
Gauss. We are seeing the same thing here on this newsgroup
where passed tenents are held on to the death by those
addicted to the passed. Naturally I think about my own
case.
I presented a trail of science where each step can be
examined in
depth
on Googles when reading the achievements of others.
There is not one point on the trail that prior science
does not
repute.
It fills a void with respect to radiation where presently
there
is nothing else presented to fill this gap of knoweledge.
Yet we can see how humans react to change with out a
morsel
of evidence to contradict the new are able to gather a
baying crowd
similar to that around madame Guillotine to view the death
of nobles.
Ofcourse at that time academia had not closed its society
off
from the outside where now they are better equipped
against the poll
makers
such that the only efforts left to derail in science are
those
generated outside the
academic world and also judged by those who are also
excluded by the
closed society
as a unproven value. Vincent was different. He generated
his skunk
works from the inside of academia who were desperate to
include
themselves into the closed.science of academia, Where they
could
supply information that would not and does not pass the
time of day in
academia.
I read a tale once that a man hid from facts by hiding in
a garbage
can where he suddenly realised he was closed off from all
the worries
of the world. Where the temperature was warm and food tho
spoiled was
available for the picking. Ofcourse there was the smell
but what did
it really matter as nobody else was around that could
smell and thus
insult him.
In this group there is evidence that some of its members
have emerged
from their former places of confort and thus show that
even in speech
does the former odour prevail.
Humans must get away from this syndrome of resistance to
change and
regain its inherrant inquisitiveness.
Very best regards to all
Art Unwin....KB9MZ...XG(uk)

-------------

Do you suppose that red blood cells look down their noses at
white blood cells? After all, there are far more red blood
cells than white blood cells. Numbers alone would indicate
that they are superior. Perhaps the white blood cells feel
that they are superior because there are fewer of them.
Plus, they have the noblest task of all, that of defending
the world/body.

Without either type, our bodies would cease to function.

So it is with various types of people. We need them all.
Each have their function. None are expendable.

Ed, NM2K- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes. But when they over estimate their abilities in areas outside
their field of expertise you can expect problems.
Both a set of gears as well as a wrench each have superb qualities.
Let the wrench place itself between the grinding teeth of gears
then
all progress comes to a halt
Art

Universal laws of the sciences
 

On 20 Jan, 09:51, art wrote:
On 20 Jan, 09:21, "Ed Cregger" wrote:





"art" wrote in message

...

On 19 Jan, 10:56, "AI4QJ" wrote:
wrote in message

ne

http://www.energyscience.org.uk/le/le24.htm

I have just got around to reading just the intro
of the above URL. Later I will digest the rest of
the lesson.
What struck me was how deftly the author pointed out
where pseudo experts have dominated science thru the ages
such that it reflects the poles of the many led by the
few.
It shows time and time again that science is a popularity
contest where the so called "in crowd" of of self
rightious
people have been able to thwat the advances of science of
the past centuries. Gallilao comes to mind as does Green
of Nottingham and Heavieside of Clapton and ofcourse my
favorite
Gauss. We are seeing the same thing here on this newsgroup
where passed tenents are held on to the death by those
addicted to the passed. Naturally I think about my own
case.
I presented a trail of science where each step can be
examined in
depth
on Googles when reading the achievements of others.
There is not one point on the trail that prior science
does not
repute.
It fills a void with respect to radiation where presently
there
is nothing else presented to fill this gap of knoweledge.
Yet we can see how humans react to change with out a
morsel
of evidence to contradict the new are able to gather a
baying crowd
similar to that around madame Guillotine to view the death
of nobles.
Ofcourse at that time academia had not closed its society
off
from the outside where now they are better equipped
against the poll
makers
such that the only efforts left to derail in science are
those
generated outside the
academic world and also judged by those who are also
excluded by the
closed society
as a unproven value. Vincent was different. He generated
his skunk
works from the inside of academia who were desperate to
include
themselves into the closed.science of academia, Where they
could
supply information that would not and does not pass the
time of day in
academia.
I read a tale once that a man hid from facts by hiding in
a garbage
can where he suddenly realised he was closed off from all
the worries
of the world. Where the temperature was warm and food tho
spoiled was
available for the picking. Ofcourse there was the smell
but what did
it really matter as nobody else was around that could
smell and thus
insult him.
In this group there is evidence that some of its members
have emerged
from their former places of confort and thus show that
even in speech
does the former odour prevail.
Humans must get away from this syndrome of resistance to
change and
regain its inherrant inquisitiveness.
Very best regards to all
Art Unwin....KB9MZ...XG(uk)

-------------

Do you suppose that red blood cells look down their noses at
white blood cells? After all, there are far more red blood
cells than white blood cells. Numbers alone would indicate
that they are superior. Perhaps the white blood cells feel
that they are superior because there are fewer of them.
Plus, they have the noblest task of all, that of defending
the world/body.

Without either type, our bodies would cease to function.

So it is with various types of people. We need them all.
Each have their function. None are expendable.

Ed, NM2K- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes. But when they over estimate their abilities in areas outside
their field of expertise you can expect problems.
Both a set of gears as well as a wrench each have superb qualities.
Let the wrench place itself *between the grinding teeth of gears
then
all progress comes to a halt
Art- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I proved myself as a true ham today. I had this new antenna on hand
but the temperature was zero F degrees. Undaunted I went outside and
disassembled my presenst antenna and took it off the tower and then
replaced it with my replacement extra portable 160M antenna. By the
time I finished at noon the temperature has reached a balmy 12 degrees
F. Warmed myself up and the
put the MFJ259 on the line in the shack. The resistance did not go
below 20 ohms and climbed to 100 ohms at one end of the band.Swr on
the meter showed a max of 3:1 across the whole band.
I will have to wait a day or so to check it again to see if a matching
effort is required
when using the tube output of the amp which is tunable ofcourse. Now
to the wifes honey doos for the rest of the day.Again, facts are
stranger than fiction when using an antenna that is a tight squash
into a lawyers briefcase which is larger than the norm. That defies
the long held housewives tail that size is everything even tho
aperture is proportional to gain, all ofcourse based on a yagi design
which all hams are sure cannot be beaten by a smaller antenna
array.Where are the censors of the day? By the way when the WHOLE
radiator is 70foot or so away from ground the decrease in noise is
tremendous.
Regards to all
Art Unwin KB9MZ....XG(uk)

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On Jan 20, 11:51 am, art wrote:


Yes. But when they over estimate their abilities in areas outside
their field of expertise you can expect problems.

Pot+Kettle=Black?

I proved myself as a true ham today.

You tacked your license to the wall above your MFJ259?

BTW, any directional gain means little if only a small amount
of the applied RF is radiated by the small inefficient antenna.
With such a small antenna, "gain" is the last thing you should be
worried about.
My MW receiving loops have a great f/s ratio. That does not
mean I would want to use them as transmitting antennas.. :/
Git my drift Vern?
MK

Universal laws of the sciences
 

On 20 Jan, 14:22, wrote:
On Jan 20, 11:51 am, art wrote:



Yes. But when they over estimate their abilities in areas outside
their field of expertise you can expect problems.

Pot+Kettle=Black?

I proved myself as a true ham today.

You tacked your license to the wall above your MFJ259?

BTW, any directional gain means little if only a small amount
of the applied RF is radiated by the small inefficient antenna.
With such a small antenna, "gain" is the last thing you should be
worried about.
My MW receiving loops have a great f/s ratio. That does not
mean I would want to use them as transmitting antennas.. :/
Git my drift Vern?
MK

This antenna of mine has really got you in a headlock.Your breathing
is close to being cut off and there is no blood flowing to your brain
such that you are so angry and can't think straight.
What on earth does this antenna mean to a red neck who brags of
avoiding schooling? Is it regret of some sort? It is not a secret
antenna! Sooner or later you will have the opportunity to make one
yourself. Probably in time for the peak of the next sunspot cycle. But
then, what use will you make of it other than talk? On the other hand
I don't remember anytime referring to your antennas either for
transmitting or receiving other than hearing you say, in effect, that
they cam beat anything on the planet. Having never met a redneck from
the mountains I can only assume that such talk is the very nature of a
redneck that makes them a subject for comedy. For that you do a
terrific job with respect to american humour.