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"art" wrote
Tho the antenna covers little area apurture is covered by gain, the loop
with its inherrant gapaqcitive positioning creates an electric field that
extends beyond its physical shape. You see this effect in a mobile when the
audio increases as you drive by

power lines and the like.
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More likely it is due to the collection and re-radiation of fields by nearby
conductors, so as to increase the net field arriving at the mobile antenna.

RF

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On 18 Jan, 07:21, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" *wroteTho the antenna covers little area apurture is covered by gain, the loop
with its inherrant gapaqcitive positioning creates an electric field that
extends beyond its physical shape. You see this effect in a mobile when the
audio increases as you drive by


power lines and the like.
______________

More likely it is due to the collection and re-radiation of fields by nearby
conductors, so as to increase the net field arriving at the mobile antenna..

RF


Exactly. The antennas electrical field is larger than its physical
size.
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Exactly. The antennas electrical field is larger
than its physical size.

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My comment concerned a mobile antenna coupling into nearby conductors.

Are you saying that this is the basis for increased gain from your 160-m,
gaussian, compact, full-wave, tank circuit, tilted antenna in equilibrium?

RF

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On 18 Jan, 08:48, "Richard Fry" wrote:
"art" Exactly. The antennas electrical field is larger
than its physical size.


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My comment concerned a mobile antenna coupling into nearby conductors.

Are you saying that this is the basis for increased gain from your 160-m,
gaussian, compact, full-wave, tank circuit, tilted antenna in equilibrium?

RF


And what is "THIS"?
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And what is "THIS"?
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Rewritten to clarify for "art"

Are you saying that coupling from your 160-m, gaussian, compact, full-wave,
tank circuit, tilted antenna in equilibrium into randomly located conductors
near the transmit antenna is the basis for increased gain from that antenna?

Such random couplings ARE the reason for the increased signals you mentioned
in your earlier statement, "You see this effect in a mobile when the audio
increases as you drive by power lines and the like," and it appears you are
claiming that effect to explain the performance of your 160-m, gaussian,
etc, etc antenna in equilibrium.

Please explain.

RF



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On 18 Jan, 09:16, "Richard Fry" wrote:
And what is "THIS"?


____________

Rewritten to clarify for "art"

Are you saying that coupling from your 160-m, gaussian, compact, full-wave,
tank circuit, tilted antenna in equilibrium into randomly located conductors
near the transmit antenna is the basis for increased gain from that antenna?

Such random couplings ARE the reason for the increased signals you mentioned
in your earlier statement, "You see this effect in a mobile when the audio
increases as you drive by power lines and the like," and it appears you are
claiming that effect to explain the performance of your 160-m, gaussian,
etc, etc antenna in equilibrium.

Please explain.

RF


No.I do not carry telephone poles on my vehical.What strange thinking
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"art" wrote:
No.I do not carry telephone poles on my vehical.

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But aren't you claiming the effects you noted for a mobile antenna near
other conductors for your 160-m, time-variant Gaussian, diamagnetic,
cosmic-particle-levitating, compact, full-wave, tank circuit, tilted antenna
in equilibrium that you have described as installed on top of a short tower
in your back yard?

BTW, do you have means to change the tilt of your antenna when you want to
get best coverage in various different directions?

RF

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