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Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:13:56 GMT, Gene Fuller wrote: The irradiance equations work fine for detailing the external effects, but they don't give any hint of what happens inside the interface. Think Thevenin. Hi Gene, Cecil isn't going to rise far enough to catch a breath of air on this one. You may as well drop the shoe for lurkers (and me). I don't see the connection to Thevenin (specifically); but, for me, inside the interface we can draw the correlation of TIR failure (the chapter that Cecil hasn't drug across the Xerox yet) to evanescent waves to near fields to how antennas work. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Richard, Perhaps I have misread the message traffic for the past 5 years or so, but it appears that most of the heat over wave reflections is about what happens during the reflections, including detailed concern about energy and momentum. The issue is never (or at least rarely) about what one would find in external measurements on the transmission line (or free space, as the case may be). This goes back at least to the battles between Steve Best and Walt Maxwell. (I pointed out that both models were correct, although they arrived at the proper conclusions in quite different manners.) More recently, we have great battles over interferometers and cute Java demonstrations. Absolutely nobody would question the overall wave superposition principles shown in the FSU Magnet Lab Java applet. Most people know how to add sine waves, or at least they can look up the technique. The entire debate usually comes down to arguments about how that addition actually takes place physically. This is what I am calling the Thevenin equivalent. In particular, the external observations are unambiguous and non-controversial. The standard models and equations give all the correct answers for the observables. At the same time those models and equations say nothing about how the two FSU input waves suddenly jump together to superpose and interfere. Do the waves "cancel"? Is there a requirement for auxiliary waves that are created and immediately destroyed? How does one account for missing momentum? That attempted under-the-hood analysis with tools suitable only for external description drives my suggestion of the parallel to the Thevenin model. 73, Gene W4SZ |
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