Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
While I cannot dismiss the existence of the photons, I am not aware of
any experiments which have been able to measure them.

Hecht says: "... researchers ... have conducted experiments
in which they literally counted individual photons".

I was aware of light, not RF. And, of course, at the extreme
"frequencies" (others would state "Higher Energy Particles" for all
RF--I guess), photons (particles) become undeniable--x-rays, gamma rays,
etc. However, "light transmitters" have always been of a differing
design/construction (example: light bulb) than RF transmitters.

My readings and studies have been of a "circular nature", just when I
have, in the past, decided that rf are/is waves, I have read something
which convinced me particles are responsible--then the opposite occurs
and I am back standing on square one. Hopefully, and in a "BLATANT"
manner, some experiment will make the truth of this whole subject
ABSOLUTELY apparent.

Until then, I think it is OK to remain undecided and firmly set in ones
beliefs ... but cautious of poking too much fun at anothers'.

Warm regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
I was aware of light, not RF.

I will go out on a limb and assert that light
waves and RF waves are both electromagnetic
waves with differing wavelengths. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:

...
I will go out on a limb and assert that light
waves and RF waves are both electromagnetic
waves with differing wavelengths. :-)

Well, my "limb" is probably well known ...

I don't think we "know" anything, until we deal with what part the ether
plays in all this ... I see it as we are flying a plane without paying
any heed to the existence of air--I am sure it could be done--just
happen to stumble upon a set(s) of math which would allow it--it is just
a "bunch easier" knowing about the air.

Regards,
JS

On 2 Feb, 09:21, John Smith wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
...
I will go out on a limb and assert that light
waves and RF waves are both electromagnetic
waves with differing wavelengths. :-)

Well, my "limb" is probably well known ...

I don't think we "know" anything, until we deal with what part the ether
plays in all this ... I see it as we are flying a plane without paying
any heed to the existence of air--I am sure it could be done--just
happen to stumble upon a set(s) of math which would allow it--it is just
a "bunch easier" knowing about the air.

Regards,
JS

To have a mind set around liquids and solids prevent true
understanding
of the elements and their magnetic fields which is the basis of all
the universe. If one thinks of H2O as being elements with a
electrical
field where the energy contained in that field determines the density
of like particles.
One way of looking at it is the transformation from ice to a gas with
each
transformation being ruled by the change in energy ( latent energy)
One can simulate this action between a solid and a liquid by filling a
vessel with fine particles that is so dense that one cannot poke a
finger into it. When a gas (potentialenergy) is injected (now
kinetic)
into the bottom of the vessel the particles become liquid in form
such
that one can stir the contents in cluster form plus a pressure wave
in advance. Is it not a coincidence that 95% of elements are
diamagnetic
where the difference between that and paramagnetic is very small
and reflected in field strength or potential energy?

art wrote:

...
To have a mind set around liquids and solids prevent true
understanding
of the elements and their magnetic fields which is the basis of all
the universe. If one thinks of H2O as being elements with a
electrical
field where the energy contained in that field determines the density
of like particles.
One way of looking at it is the transformation from ice to a gas with
each
transformation being ruled by the change in energy ( latent energy)
One can simulate this action between a solid and a liquid by filling a
vessel with fine particles that is so dense that one cannot poke a
finger into it. When a gas (potentialenergy) is injected (now
kinetic)
into the bottom of the vessel the particles become liquid in form
such
that one can stir the contents in cluster form plus a pressure wave
in advance. Is it not a coincidence that 95% of elements are
diamagnetic
where the difference between that and paramagnetic is very small
and reflected in field strength or potential energy?

Frankly Art, until we move a bit further forward--I am very open to the
arguments/ideas/text you contribute.

My mother has always said, "It is better to listen than to think you
understand [know] it all." And, her advise has served me well in life,
so well, I have never been able to dismiss it.

Regards,
JS

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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John Smith wrote:
I was aware of light, not RF.

I will go out on a limb and assert that light
waves and RF waves are both electromagnetic
waves with differing wavelengths. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

A limb? Even I know that!

Suzy wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
I will go out on a limb and assert that light
waves and RF waves are both electromagnetic
waves with differing wavelengths. :-)

A limb? Even I know that!

Thus the smiley face. :-)
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
Suzy wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
I will go out on a limb and assert that light
waves and RF waves are both electromagnetic
waves with differing wavelengths. :-)

A limb? Even I know that!

Thus the smiley face. :-)

Yes, let's not forget that! :-) LOL!

A gentleman never would ... :-D

Warm regards,
JS