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Ian, G3SEK wrote:
"1. The Bird "wattmeter" does not in fact sense power. At the detailed level, it senses voltages and currents in its internal transmission line---." Since the ratio of voltage to current in either direction is always Zo, all you need are voltage and current samples of one direction at a time. The Bird is not alone in determining power from such voltage and current samples. The dynamometer does too. A d-c meter is useless on a-c because the needle tries to move first one way then the other as the a-c current through it alternates. Inertia keeps the indication on a-c close to zero. The dynamometer eliminates the flicker and gives an appropriate deflection on a-c. It does this by replacing the d-c meter`s permanent magnet with an a-c coil. This is arranged to torque the needle upscale no matter whch direction the current takes through the coils. The moveable coil is always deflected the same way by interaction with the fixed coil. It is simple to calibrate a dynamometer for power and feed current through one coil and place volts across the other. It senses volts and amps but it reads out power, as does the Bird wattmeter. Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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Richard Harrison wrote:
It is simple to calibrate a dynamometer for power and feed current through one coil and place volts across the other. It senses volts and amps but it reads out power, Correct... as does the Bird wattmeter. Wrong. The Bird has no second meter coil, and no other physical mechanism to multiply the E sample by the I sample. As Walt says (thank you, sir) the Bird is *calibrated* in terms of power using a matched load. I've made my point. There's an Internet abbreviation called IAFWAFIAWMWQ... so I'll be wise, and quit. -- 73 from Ian G3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB) Editor, 'The VHF/UHF DX Book' http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek |
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Ian White, G3SEK wrote:
Wrong. The Bird has no second meter coil, and no other physical mechanism to multiply the E sample by the I sample. Remember when nomograms were popular? Do you think you could design a nomogram with variables of voltage and current to yield power? Where's the physical multiplication mechanism? -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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