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On Mar 4, 5:52 am, Derek wrote:
Gentlemen.

It is now over two weeks since Art made his offer to Denny to supply a
model of his new antenna for testing, ( and should by now have been
delivered ), which gives all the naysayers a last chance to nail their
colours to the mast.
For my part it is my belief that Art's antenna will be a major
advance in the design of antenna's of the future, so, what say you
gentlemen, do you agree, or disagree?.


Sorry, I don't believe in the tooth fairy, free lunches, or dummy
loads on sticks. Or should I say dummy loads on towers...

Just to make things even, it is my belief that someone, who has the
respect of most ham's in this group,( including the indomitable
Richard) has a finger in this pie.


Well, Yoda is pretty good at what he does. But I doubt if
even the force® can save this project.
Like I have said, if I thought it was possible to achieve full
size performance from a shoe box sized jumble of several
hundred feet of thin 22 gauge wire, I would have already built one.
But unfortunately, I have no such delusions of RF grandeur.
BTW, if even both of the Richards, "I'm not sure which one
you consider indomitable", had a finger in the pie, but
the rest of the world refused to stick their finger in the pie,
how would that make things even?
Myself, I have trouble seeing either one of them falling for
this fairy tale of full size antenna performance from a
mini sized dummy load on a stick. Even if it is air cooled.
Does this help clarify my stance on this small sized subject?
I try to avoid any gray areas that might give the impression
that I think this device even has a remote chance of it's
claimed full sized success as a radiator of RF.
But in case some still get confused by what I say, let me
rephrase in a manner that most all will understand.
What a load of horse manure says I...
MK



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On Mar 5, 3:23 am, wrote
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Does this help clarify my stance on this small sized subject?
I try to avoid any gray areas that might give the impression
that I think this device even has a remote chance of it's
claimed full sized success as a radiator of RF.
But in case some still get confused by what I say, let me
rephrase in a manner that most all will understand.
What a load of horse manure says I...
MK



Spoken like a true neanderthal, they also refused to embrace new ways
of doing things and look what happened to them.
You are living in the past, keep on digging.

Derek
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On Mar 6, 4:49 pm, Derek wrote:


Spoken like a true neanderthal, they also refused to embrace new ways
of doing things and look what happened to them.
You are living in the past, keep on digging.

Derek


Well, where is the beef? Do you have any actual data to support
these magic claims? Hummm.. Thought not..
I'm using actual experience with antennas to support
my disbelief. If what he says is true, I'd likely already
be using one.. I'm not against a dinky 160m antenna
with full size performance. But until I actually see
one work... Well, you might get it, or you might not..

How can I live in the past? I can only remember the past.
And *nowhere* in the past have I ever seen such a
device actually work as claimed.
So put up the data, or you get to digging...
You kind of remind me of that "Bret" dude who calls himself
John Smith, or whatever... :/
I'd rather be a slopehead than believe in the tooth fairy,
free lunches, and antennas that don't follow the rules
of science.
I have no doubt his antenna may radiate some..
But then again, most dummy loads do also..
Tales of QSO's using light bulb dummy loads used to be
quite common back in the past, which I can still remember
going back to the time of swatting at colorful plastic butterflies
hanging above my head in my baby crib.
MK
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Derek wrote:
On Mar 5, 3:23 am, wrote
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Does this help clarify my stance on this small sized subject?
I try to avoid any gray areas that might give the impression
that I think this device even has a remote chance of it's
claimed full sized success as a radiator of RF.
But in case some still get confused by what I say, let me
rephrase in a manner that most all will understand.
What a load of horse manure says I...
MK



Spoken like a true neanderthal, they also refused to embrace new ways
of doing things and look what happened to them.
You are living in the past, keep on digging.



Are we required to suspend disbelief for every new idea that comes
along? That would be chaos.


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