On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:54:41 GMT, ml wrote:

i could get away w/a somewhat bigger antenna but not 'super large'
i was thinking if it looked like a tv at, and was even 2x the size
perhaps no one would really notice

Hi Myles,

Think of that TV antenna being roughly for 2M. Now think of your
antenna being for 20M. Your HF antenna is going to be 10 times
larger, and it is going to need to be further from the roof for the
same reason (nearby clutter is going to be in its field of view - so
to speak).

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC