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It's about 600 bucks but a Cysco 2400 WiFi with PoE support
would do this, however , remoting into a router everytime you
want to scour the bands or make an AP change is a bit of a
nucense. Thats what turns people to USB Dish and Dongle
setups. You can switch AP access on the fly, with the router
you have to "Go To Work" sort of speek. It does however
benefiet your telnet skills. :-)
If I could find a lower end name "Repeater" capable AP point
unit like a NetGear or similar and program it to autologon to
unprotected WiFi access points That would Kick butt.
Thats called promiscuous mode but has moral issues.
And another turn off, Two transmitters equalls double the
Packet overhead witch converts to half the speed even if you
have a strong signal. The KISS methoud always wins for
performance in WiFi.

I'd like to learn more about why the USB is chosen.

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On 06/02/2011 12:36 PM, moronsbegone wrote:

If I could find a lower end name "Repeater" capable AP point
unit like a NetGear or similar and program it to autologon to
unprotected WiFi access points That would Kick butt.
Thats called promiscuous mode but has moral issues.


Hello, and moral issues aside for the moment, you'll probably discover
very quickly that unlike a few years ago most, if not all, Wi-Fi access
points/cable routers in your area these days are probably protected
either by WEP (old) or WPA-2. (A Wi-Fi laptop with a network scan
utility will usually indicate protected/open networks). And even many
of those with older equipment have gotten wise.

The newer boxes usually have the protection turned on out-of-the-box
with a password (changeable by the user/administrator). Older boxes had
WEP turned off by default and a lot of users just plugged them in and
never bothered to read the user guide and/or turn on the protection.
Sincerely, and 73s from N4GGO,

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On 06/03/2011 06:43 AM, J.B. Wood wrote:
On 06/02/2011 12:36 PM, moronsbegone wrote:

If I could find a lower end name "Repeater" capable AP point
unit like a NetGear or similar and program it to autologon to
unprotected WiFi access points That would Kick butt.
Thats called promiscuous mode but has moral issues.


Hello, and moral issues aside for the moment, you'll probably discover
very quickly that unlike a few years ago most, if not all, Wi-Fi access
points/cable routers in your area these days are probably protected
either by WEP (old) or WPA-2. (A Wi-Fi laptop with a network scan
utility will usually indicate protected/open networks). And even many of
those with older equipment have gotten wise.

The newer boxes usually have the protection turned on out-of-the-box
with a password (changeable by the user/administrator). Older boxes had
WEP turned off by default and a lot of users just plugged them in and
never bothered to read the user guide and/or turn on the protection.
Sincerely, and 73s from N4GGO,


Hello, and I forgot to add that if your objective is to access public
Wi-Fi (which is usually unprotected) at a distance then have at it.
Sort of like stationary war driving. My previous comments pertained to
accessing private/home Wi-Fi nets. Sincerely,

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Hello once more. One last thing to add is that even if one installs a
high-gain Wi-Fi antenna, depending on the distance to the source, you
probably won't have clear line-of-sight and subject to multipath
problems. The network might show a "4 green bars" signal strength one
moment and be yellow, red, or out the next). Sincerely,

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"J.B. Wood" wrote in
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Hello once more. One last thing to add is that even if one
installs a high-gain Wi-Fi antenna, depending on the
distance to the source, you probably won't have clear
line-of-sight and subject to multipath problems. The
network might show a "4 green bars" signal strength one
moment and be yellow, red, or out the next). Sincerely,


That is most likely where my problem is. Remember this is just
a redneck style Git'r done solution till my commercial one
arrives, a vertical anttenna in front of a dish has got all
ears and no mouth written all over it.
Now if I was using a feed horn [cantenna type] well that would
prove tx power and your sugestion as well is the culprit, we
know the clutter thing is in there because this whole shmoosh
is indoors. I hate running high power $$$ and frequent
burnouts of the finals. I like to think a half watt is all
I'll need. Now if I can get my TX to look like a Laser beam
hey hey.

Seriously check this out;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=piFISJKyV6c
www.youtube.com/watch?v=weEZtBTfEMU

The software is free but I preffer the USB dongle os
running BackTrack 3 It's a bit simpler, and you need 2 wifi
dongles, prefferably the Athros as suggested, II use them on
other versions of Linux too, they seem to be the best for
hackin around, they are permiscuos and can Inject packets to
an already busy data streem thanx to the MAC address
spoofabilty they have.
You can also use this software to turn a laptop with two
dongles into a covert repeater. But expect downtime with that
idea.
You can Cache everybodys WEP keys buy faking your IP as one of
the AP points in the Air. Send all 'packets copy' to a data
BIN folder and run the desypher software built in to get the
wep, wpk and such. Even SSL ports. It's my job to keep these
script kiddies out of my network, I have to know this stuff.
Our wireless Credit card system is constantly under attack
by NIX kids [wannabe hacker teens running linux] As long as I
can crack it, they will not use it, it's sitting there off
line collecting dust per order ME!! WEP is not safe neither
is WPK, though a data base dictionary service is needed for
WPK sometimes for 25 bucks these hackers will take your glop
of ssl data and within 1 day send you the security key.
This is the nightmare behind CLOUD computing, the access to
several hundred micro proccessors to crack a key is now CHEAP,
I use 40 lab machines to convert and crunch a DVD 2 hour video
in ten minutes with cloud computing software. It's realy FARM
computing not quite the same as the term local ads are running
such as google is now cloud computing.
Unfortunatly Criminal minds are more intrested in this more
then we are.




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"J.B. Wood" wrote in
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On 06/02/2011 12:36 PM, moronsbegone wrote:

If I could find a lower end name "Repeater" capable AP
point unit like a NetGear or similar and program it to
autologon to unprotected WiFi access points That would
Kick butt. Thats called promiscuous mode but has moral
issues.


Hello, and moral issues aside for the moment, you'll
probably discover very quickly that unlike a few years ago
most, if not all, Wi-Fi access points/cable routers in your
area these days are probably protected either by WEP (old)
or WPA-2. (A Wi-Fi laptop with a network scan utility will
usually indicate protected/open networks). And even many
of those with older equipment have gotten wise.

The newer boxes usually have the protection turned on
out-of-the-box with a password (changeable by the
user/administrator). Older boxes had WEP turned off by
default and a lot of users just plugged them in and never
bothered to read the user guide and/or turn on the
protection. Sincerely, and 73s from N4GGO,


Give me 5 minutes and "Back-Track-3" and I can crack a wep key.
google backtrack 3 and version 4 and weep!!
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