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On Apr 11, 3:30*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
Roger Sparks wrote: You write "The only other device in the entire system capable of dissipation is the source resistor." which is a correct statement. Therefore, all power dissipated in the circuit must be dissipated in the load resistor and the source resistor because there is nowhere else for it to go. Please do not forget the source. It can absorb energy. Since the reflected power is not dissipated in the load, by definition, it has to be dissipated in the source resistor but not at the exact time of its arrival. There is nothing wrong with delaying power dissipation for 90 degrees of the cycle. If you can't identify where the energy is stored for those 90 degrees you do not have a complete story. Or you are violating conservation of energy and therefore have no story what-so-ever. In Parts 2 and 3 of my articles, I will show how the source decreases it power output to compensate for destructive interference and increases it power output to compensate for constructive interference. Unfortunately, the circuit is intended to illustrate the absence of [AVERAGE] interference under special circumstances but an instant analysis shows that all the power can not be accounted for. * Not surprising since there is no conservation of power principle. Conservation of energy means that energy flows must be conserved. Therefore, conservation of power. We can only conclude that [instantaneous] interference is present. Not good because the circuit was intended to illustrate a case of NO [AVERAGE] interference. I took the liberty of adding adjectives in brackets[*] to your above statements. It doesn't matter about the instantaneous values of power since not only do they not have to be conserved, but they are also "of limited usefulness", according to Eugene Hecht, since the actual energy content of instantaneous power is undefined even when the instantaneous power is defined. Are you sure that is why Hecht wrote what he did? He would, in all likelihood, have an apoplexy if he knew how his words were being used. The circuit is very useful to investigate interference more carefully because on the AVERAGE, the interference IS zero. *Using spreadsheets, we can see how the interference both adds and subtracts from the instantaneous applied voltage, resulting in cycling variations in the power applied to the resistor and other circuit elements. *A very instructive exercise. Instructive as long as we remember that a conservation of power principle doesn't exist and therefore, equations based on instantaneous powers do not have to balance. The joules, not the watts, are what must balance. Since the total energies in your equations do not balance either, there is still a problem with your hypothesis. It would be helpful, however, if you could actually demonstrate a system where the energies balance, but the flows do not. This would settle the matter once and for all. (You won't find one, since balanced flows are a consequence of conservation of energy). ...Keith |
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