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OK. I have tested the frequency and found it to be 75.489Mhz. Should
have done this first, sorry for the confusion. Comtek did make systems
that operated betweeh 72 and 76Mhz. This is one of those.

That said, where do I stand antenna wise?

Thanks!
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On May 30, 12:50 pm, scooterspal wrote:
OK. I have tested the frequency and found it to be 75.489Mhz. Should
have done this first, sorry for the confusion. Comtek did make systems
that operated betweeh 72 and 76Mhz. This is one of those.

That said, where do I stand antenna wise?

Thanks!


Depending on how large a distance you want it to cover, you may get by
with a considerably shorter antenna than the 48 inch recommended
size. But you also didn't say, that I could see, that there was a
problem using a 48" piece of wire. Obviously it's not too critical
since in use the mic cable can be bent in all sorts of different
shapes and it still operates. In other words, try to not make this
more difficult than it needs to be. If you need the mechanical
antenna to be shorter than 48 inches, just wind that length of wire in
a spiral, spaced out as much as you can accommodate. Try that and see
how it works. Easy enough? If you need higher performance, that's
possible, but in general very short antennas won't be as efficient as
straight antennas long enough to be self-resonant at the operating
frequency. If you need good performance from a short antenna, get a
system that operates at a higher frequency.

Cheers,
Tom
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K7ITM wrote:

If you need the mechanical
antenna to be shorter than 48 inches, just wind that length of wire in
a spiral, spaced out as much as you can accommodate. Try that and see
how it works. Easy enough? If you need higher performance, that's
possible, but in general very short antennas won't be as efficient as
straight antennas long enough to be self-resonant at the operating
frequency...


Is that all a rubber ducky antenna is? 48" of wire wound around a
flexible core of some type?

If so, what do I look for (type, model, etc.) if I want to purchase
one to try out?
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Is that all a rubber ducky antenna is? 48" of wire wound around a
flexible core of some type?


No, that isn't all that a 'rubber duck' antenna is, wish it were
that simple. Since the question was asked, I have to assume that you
aren't exactly familiar with what a transmitter 'looks' for in an
antenna, or how that 'looked for' thing is arrived at. (And if you
aren't sort of 'involved' in radio stuff, why should you be?) Once
you learn about all that stuff it really isn't all that hard to
figure. But that 'learning' can certainly be a real chore!
- 'Doc
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....Rats, that didn't post like I thought it would. (Not enough
coffee.) Disregard the part with the "" thingys. Sorry 'bout that.
- 'Doc



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....aw @#$%. That didn't work either. Not my day, it seems. Take it
for what it's worth, disregard the rest, or the whole thing for that
matter. I give up.
- 'Doc

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Lumpy wrote:

Regarding this antenna for the low power transmitter,
I expect there will be a bit of grief coupling a rubber duck, or anything else, in place of what
was the mic cable.

Are they somehow using the shield of the cable as the antenna? If so it's likely floating and
not directly connected to circuit ground. Plugging a duck in place of the mic, with typical connectors
and adaptors, would likely not connect the antenna element to the "antenna terminal" of the device.


Thanks, Lumpy. Now we're getting somewhere.

Yes, they are using the mic cable shield for the antenna. Cable is 48"
long with a 1/8" phone plug on the end. The shield side of the mic
connector is floating, that is correct.

I would be connecting the antenna to a new socket of some sort. A BNC
if I can make that fit this rather smallish casing.

Can you give me any starting point for the antenna itself? If I was to
connect it to the existing lead off the coil, the one that now goes to
the mic shield... remove if from there and connect it to the center pin
on the antenna. Would the outer ring of the BNC go to battery negative
ground?

The manufacturer mentioned using a 5K resistor on each side as I recall.
Does thie affect the gain in any way?
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