" w4nng" wrote in message
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Besides Wineguard's HD769 series, anyone know of other Ch 7 thru 69 DTV
hi-gain outdoor antennas?

"Ch 7 thru 69 DTV"? Only 7-51 is authorized after the transition (in the
U.S.).

Thanks D. - got a bit better search results using 7 & 51 in the seach
rather then 7 & 69

"D. Stussy" wrote in message
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" w4nng" wrote in message
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Besides Wineguard's HD769 series, anyone know of other Ch 7 thru 69 DTV
hi-gain outdoor antennas?

"Ch 7 thru 69 DTV"? Only 7-51 is authorized after the transition (in the
U.S.).

In article ,
D. Stussy wrote:
"Ch 7 thru 69 DTV"? Only 7-51 is authorized after the transition (US)

Channels 2-51 are all allocated to DTV (except for 37). Channels
2-6 aren't as popular so many people won't need an antenna that can
receive them; some people can even get by with UHF only (14-51). To
be sure about what you will need go to www.tvfool.com and see what
real channels will be used in your area after transition.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvantennas.html
--
Jim Prescott - Computing and Networking Group
School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, University of Rochester, NY

"Jim Prescott" wrote in message
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In article ,
D. Stussy wrote:
"Ch 7 thru 69 DTV"? Only 7-51 is authorized after the transition (US)

Channels 2-51 are all allocated to DTV (except for 37). Channels
2-6 aren't as popular so many people won't need an antenna that can
receive them; some people can even get by with UHF only (14-51). To
be sure about what you will need go to www.tvfool.com and see what
real channels will be used in your area after transition.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvantennas.html

Are you certain? I'm in Los Angeles, the #2 market of the U.S., and NONE of
our existing stations in Southern California (including the San Diego market
too) are keeping their allocations on 2-5 (6 is assigned to Mexico, but even
XETV (FOX) is moving to UHF). None of them have even filed construction
permits for that range - but have actually filed permits for other
allocations (UHF). If there were to be a place where something were to
remain in 2-6, I'd think that the top 10 (out of the ~200 TV markets) would
have such occur.

On Jul 16, 7:20*pm, "D. Stussy" wrote:
"Jim Prescott" wrote in message

Channels 2-51 are all allocated to DTV (except for 37). *Channels
2-6 aren't as popular so many people won't need an antenna that can
receive them; some people can even get by with UHF only (14-51). *To
be sure about what you will need go towww.tvfool.comand see what
real channels will be used in your area after transition.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvantennas.html

Are you certain? *I'm in Los Angeles, the #2 market of the U.S., and NONE of
our existing stations in Southern California (including the San Diego market
too) are keeping their allocations on 2-5 (6 is assigned to Mexico, but even
XETV (FOX) is moving to UHF). *None of them have even filed construction
permits for that range - but have actually filed permits for other
allocations (UHF). *If there were to be a place where something were to
remain in 2-6, I'd think that the top 10 (out of the ~200 TV markets) would
have such occur.

Yes, VHF 2 to 6 will be in use after the analog shutdown. There are
currently 40 full power stations set to operate on low VHF after
02/17/09. The low VHF channels for digital signals are more sensitive
to electrical impulse noise and interference. Few stations in the
major urban cities have opted to use low VHF for digital TV because
they are most prone to interference there. The largest market station
that is currently slated to be on low VHF is WPVI-DT ABC 6 in
Philadelphia which will flash cut from UHF 64 to VHF 6 next February.

In a crowded spectrum market such as LA, what may happen is that some
low power (LP) stations will eventually be forced to go to low VHF
because they can't find any viable upper VHF or UHF channels to be on.
But the LPs that do that are going to be stations that really don't
care about OTA reception, but want a broadcast station so they can get
on the local cable systems - religious stations mostly if I had to
guess.

Over 50 stations submitted petitions in June to the FCC asking for a
different post-transition channel assignment because their current
post-trans channel allotment presents problems for them. A few of
these are stations currently alloted to be on low VHF and asked for a
upper VHF or UHF channel, so when the dust settles next year (and
there will be a LOT of dust), we may have fewer than 40 low VHF full
power stations, but they will be there. Many cities will not have any
low VHF digital stations, but will have at least 1 upper VHF station.
Hence the need for antenna for upper VHF and UHF.

BTW, low power stations will be allowed to operate on UHF 52 to 59 if
they have no alternate good channel assignment, but they also have to
have permission from who ever brought the channel frequency to operate
there. The last part will likely limit any LP stations in the UHF 52
to 59 range to rural or remote areas, but a LP station in Denver
recently filed for a digital UHF 52 channel post-transition.

Alan F

PS Verizon messed up my usenet access when they dropped alt.* groups.
Thanks a lot, Verizon and the NY AG.

In alt.tv.tech.hdtv wrote:

| PS Verizon messed up my usenet access when they dropped alt.* groups.
| Thanks a lot, Verizon and the NY AG.

I trust that you are calling them every single day to tell them that it is
absolute stupidity to remove newgroups that have no child porn as part of a
compaign they claim to be against child porn.

And then you switch to using the NUMBER ONE source of Usenet spam as your
alternative? Just pray that the spammers don't start doing "followup spam"
via Google groups to try to get past the blocking that allows followups to
bypass filters (e.g. I'll figure out how to block it all if spammers do that
before Google cleans house, and will be quite willing to tell everyone else
how to do it).

You could, instead, switch to one of the paid Usenet providers, and just
treat it as Verizon raised your billing price again.

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| by the abuse department, bellsouth.net is blocked. If you post to |
| Usenet from these places, find another Usenet provider ASAP. |
| Phil Howard KA9WGN (email for humans: first name in lower case at ipal.net) |

In alt.tv.tech.hdtv D. Stussy wrote:
| "Jim Prescott" wrote in message
| ...
| In article ,
| D. Stussy wrote:
| "Ch 7 thru 69 DTV"? Only 7-51 is authorized after the transition (US)
|
| Channels 2-51 are all allocated to DTV (except for 37). Channels
| 2-6 aren't as popular so many people won't need an antenna that can
| receive them; some people can even get by with UHF only (14-51). To
| be sure about what you will need go to www.tvfool.com and see what
| real channels will be used in your area after transition.
|
| http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvantennas.html
|
| Are you certain? I'm in Los Angeles, the #2 market of the U.S., and NONE of
| our existing stations in Southern California (including the San Diego market
| too) are keeping their allocations on 2-5 (6 is assigned to Mexico, but even
| XETV (FOX) is moving to UHF). None of them have even filed construction
| permits for that range - but have actually filed permits for other
| allocations (UHF). If there were to be a place where something were to
| remain in 2-6, I'd think that the top 10 (out of the ~200 TV markets) would
| have such occur.

See if you can find an available channel for WDTV, then (ironic callsign).

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In alt.tv.tech.hdtv D. Stussy wrote:

| Are you certain? I'm in Los Angeles, the #2 market of the U.S., and NONE of
| our existing stations in Southern California (including the San Diego market
| too) are keeping their allocations on 2-5 (6 is assigned to Mexico, but even
| XETV (FOX) is moving to UHF). None of them have even filed construction
| permits for that range - but have actually filed permits for other
| allocations (UHF). If there were to be a place where something were to
| remain in 2-6, I'd think that the top 10 (out of the ~200 TV markets) would
| have such occur.

Most markets in the USA have to deal with issues from stations in all directions
around those cities. Los Angeles doesn't have to deal with stations to the west.

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| by the abuse department, bellsouth.net is blocked. If you post to |
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D. Stussy wrote:
"Jim Prescott" wrote in message
...
In article ,
D. Stussy wrote:
"Ch 7 thru 69 DTV"? Only 7-51 is authorized after the transition (US)
Channels 2-51 are all allocated to DTV (except for 37). Channels
2-6 aren't as popular so many people won't need an antenna that can
receive them; some people can even get by with UHF only (14-51). To
be sure about what you will need go to www.tvfool.com and see what
real channels will be used in your area after transition.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvantennas.html

Are you certain? I'm in Los Angeles, the #2 market of the U.S., and NONE of
our existing stations in Southern California (including the San Diego market
too) are keeping their allocations on 2-5 (6 is assigned to Mexico, but even
XETV (FOX) is moving to UHF). None of them have even filed construction
permits for that range - but have actually filed permits for other
allocations (UHF). If there were to be a place where something were to
remain in 2-6, I'd think that the top 10 (out of the ~200 TV markets) would
have such occur.


Our local ABC affiliate WOI is reverting from UHF to VHF channel 5 in
Feb 2009. It's nuts, but that's what they are doing. Nother station is
going from UHF channel 31 to VHF channel 8...so it is NOT unheard of and
those who blindly go UHF only in an antenna without knowing what EXACTLY
their locals are going to do may find another antenna purchase in their
future.

"Hasan Schiers" wrote in message
...
D. Stussy wrote:
"Jim Prescott" wrote in message
...
In article ,
D. Stussy wrote:
"Ch 7 thru 69 DTV"? Only 7-51 is authorized after the transition (US)
Channels 2-51 are all allocated to DTV (except for 37). Channels
2-6 aren't as popular so many people won't need an antenna that can
receive them; some people can even get by with UHF only (14-51). To
be sure about what you will need go to www.tvfool.com and see what
real channels will be used in your area after transition.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvantennas.html

Are you certain? I'm in Los Angeles, the #2 market of the U.S., and
NONE of
our existing stations in Southern California (including the San Diego
market
too) are keeping their allocations on 2-5 (6 is assigned to Mexico, but
even
XETV (FOX) is moving to UHF). None of them have even filed construction
permits for that range - but have actually filed permits for other
allocations (UHF). If there were to be a place where something were to
remain in 2-6, I'd think that the top 10 (out of the ~200 TV markets)
would
have such occur.


Our local ABC affiliate WOI is reverting from UHF to VHF channel 5 in
Feb 2009. It's nuts, but that's what they are doing. Nother station is
going from UHF channel 31 to VHF channel 8...so it is NOT unheard of and
those who blindly go UHF only in an antenna without knowing what EXACTLY
their locals are going to do may find another antenna purchase in their
future.

You are aware that channel 8 is NOT in the 2-6 segment (VHF-low), so that is
irrevelant.

Channels 2-4 = 54-72Mhz.
5-6 = 76-88MHz.
7-13 = 174-216Mhz.