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John Smith wrote:

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JS


Hey, the good ole' boys sent me another, unsolicited, email YEA! ;-)

I guess they expected me to post it here, as a follow-up; OK, I will:

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Michael Coslo wrote:
John Smith I wrote:
wrote:

...
"The market" spoke very clearly, in the form of comments
to FCC. The CTT proposal was overwhelmingly
opposed. About 7 out of 8 comments on it clearly said NO.
Sounds like a clear message from the market to me!

73 de Jim, N2EY


However, if a new market comes forth, one composed of amateurs

with
little or no knowledge of CW and only using digital voice and

digital
data transmission--it would be market controlled also, and one

would
suspect it would self-correct and frown on the use of the bands

for
wasteful analog and cw communications.

I would disagree. Those modes are not wasteful. On the other

hand, a
vision of using the HF bands for data transmission would indeed

be a way
of filling up our bands pretty quickly, and for not a lot of

gain. If
I'm interested in Data Transmission, I would design a system for
frequencies where there is less natural noise - VHF and up. Then
bandwidth issues would be less of a problem too.


Let's face it, digital voice is the only way to go.

I would disagree. What I have seen in digital voice so far

offers no
particular advantage over SSB, unless we are talking about

digital for
it's own sake. Most schemes that I have seen have some fatal

flaws, such
as the received transmission must be received in toto - IOW if

you don't
catch the beginning, you don't catch anything. The solution to that
would be channelizing HF, or assigning specific frequencies to

Digital
voice. In addition, unless there have been some big advances

recently,
Digital voice does not have any particular bandwidth advantages.

Give me a Digital voice mode that I can tune across the band and

pick up
a conversation at any point in the transmission, and a 1 KHz or less
bandwidth signal, and then I'll be interested. And of course,

I'll need
to see that some other folks are buying the digital radios too,

so I'll
have people to talk to.

PSK is too slow for
data transmission of LARGE and multi-megabyte amounts of data,

end of
story.

As for PSK, you are correct that it is too slow for data
transmission. But that little 31 baud signal was never intended

for Data
transmission. It was intended for correctable text at a rate that a
reasonably proficient typist could tap away at the keyboard in real
time. Also a mode that can be efficiently operated at QRP and lover
levels. And for that, it is an excellent mode.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


Really?

I see many QSO's taking place on ONE FREQ. The packets would contain a
crc number AND a serial no. denoting the conversation they pertain too,
as well as a no. indicating their logical place in decoding ...

Presently, only one QSO can take place on a single freq ...

NO, wasteful is MOST ACCURATE, only the ignorant need respond without
fully educating themselves ...

JS

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reword that. Thanks. VK2CJC.


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Wouldn't ya' rather stab the person who drafted it with a pen?

evil grin

Regards,
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Dr.Ace wrote:
Does anyone know how to modify a QRO 2500DX amplifier to work on

the 10
meter band ?

Thanks , Ace - WH2T


.



It should already cover 10:

http://www.qrotec.com/spec25m3.html

If it doesn't cover 11 meters, it probably has some type of "notch
filter" which needs removing ...

--
JS

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Paul Schlock moderated the projects they can build?

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oOoo

If you get my drift ...

JS



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Mike Coslo wrote:

...
The idea that various unlicensed users can "overlay" on top of
licensed ones, and that the whole business of licensing and

regulation
can be relaxed, sounds pretty good at first.


It only sounds good to those who believe in ideology based physics.

...
- 73 d eMike N3LI -


One mans' science is another mans' "magic", I guess ...

Increasing the data which a band of freqs, or even bands of freqs, can
send/receive by 10x?, 100x?, 1000x? or ???x is not a good thing?

The future is compressed data/voice/video/etc. packets--the present use
of the amateur bands stands in vivid contrast, when efficiency is
considered, to most all other forms of communications these days--this
condition will only worsen with time. (analog am/fm radio will, most
likely, fall within the next decade.)

Certainly amateur radio will not be able to justify another decade of
its present "modes." And, certainly no more freqs will be granted
amateurs until the efficient use of the present bands is maximized

and a
real need demonstrated.

Resistance is futile. -- The Borg.

P.S. I hear they kill the bearer of bad news here ...

Regards,
JS

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Reason: rewrite: While discussion of modern technology and future

concepts is very much encouraged, your borg quote and PS is bordering on
deliberate antagonism. Perhaps a re-edit to remove any doubt would be in
order. vk2cjc.


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wrote:

...
None of this means Amateur Radio must never ever connect to the 'net
or to other communications systems. What it does mean is that such
connections are an enhancement and/or interface, not a

replacement for
"A Boy And His Radio" (to use K0HB's phrase).

73 de Jim, N2EY


N2EY/Jim:

Well, perhaps this will be classified as a, "Yes; I agree post" and be
banned from posting. But, here goes ...

Your post was simply eloquent. It drew a complete picture for
me--krist, I will be honest with you, for a minute there, you took me
back to 12 years old and I remembered the promise of discovery! ... I
can really appreciate that!

Yes. I too was led to this path by the "romance" and "mysticism" of
radio and the lure of speaking to individuals in far away
places--constructions and experiments with electronic
parts/gear/techniques/army-surplus/etc. and antenna hardware, etc.
There is nothing wrong in enjoying these things.

You don't just have a right to enjoy such things, nor do you JUST enjoy
a right to explain them to others so they may find and enjoy them--you
have a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to these things!

I can only support you in your endeavors and exercise(s) of your
pursuit(s.) Don't be surprised if I am fond of your enjoyment of

radio,
and also can realize such enjoyments--still, even at my age ...

However, I also enjoy other paths/uses of such a remarkable pastime as
radio ... in short, the net can add to these enjoyments; your

statement,
above, affirms our agreement to that ... remember the three blind men
and the elephant--we are SO different, perhaps, in our views, but also
SO alike ...

Perhaps, you Phil and I--and others, should see ourselves as simply
travelers upon the same path--everyone is simply enjoying the view of
different "things" along our walkabout ... I suspect, I might miss what
you find--unless you discuss them with me, thanks for taking the time
and reminding me!

Warm regards,
JS

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Phil Kane wrote:

...
There are still some of us who cling to the motto "When all else
fails...amateur radio". My concept of ham radio is to be free from
any non-ham intermediary transmission systems.
--

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

e-mail: k2asp [at] arrl [dot] net


THAT is just too much of a romantics and dreamers vision for me. In
such times, where there is a "catastrophic failure of civilization" (I
mean, this is the only thing I can imagine which would hold the drama
you suggest)--trust me, if you can find someone to trade that rig to

for
a gun, a loaf of bread, some medicine for your family, shelter,

bedding,
etc., take them up on it! If you think food, medicine, fuel for
heat/cooling and shelter are going to be in demand--just try hunting up
a hot 220V outlet ...

Amateur radio did little to alleviate human suffering, pain, needs and
rescue in the New Orleans disaster--I suspect the highly specific
disaster you envision will never come, but if it does, temporary cell
towers on trailers (you know they have them, right) will be more
suited--or, as I have stated before--truckers with CB's (heck, solar
powered lowfers and QRP'ers may look good!) But hey, I have seen
Hollywood writers make a fortune selling this line, many books have
contained these ideas also--rescue by radio! ... a lot of scifi flicks
have an amateur radio in the background also--yep, I have read 'em and
watched 'em ... :-)

But then, you never know, we could be invaded by Canada or Mexico
tomorrow and find we are fresh out of nukes!

Now, all that said, I DO plan on keeping my KW+ and 5KW amps ... ya
never know, ya just never know ... but power for them, in such a
disaster? :-(

I just hope a few feds/state-workers are left to see some temp cell
towers set up ...

Regards,
JS

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Reason: unlawful: A 5 KW amplifier is not lawful for use under Part

97. Please strike reference on any resubmit. - K3FU

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Regards,
JS
 
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