John Smith wrote:
JB wrote:
Well, I can't explain anything rationaly to you because you are jumping
wildly to conclusions like a cartoon character. ...

I will be honest with you, I have been "dishonest by omission"--I know
the general public is completely unaware of the REAL dangers (well, I am
being kind, they are simply too ignorant to be concerned) ... I know
there are few "experts" who are aware (and "those threats" are being
extinguished with money/lawyers/"orchestrated-studies") ... and those
few who do know are in the medical profession, a couple of them vocal on
the subject ... most say/believe "the government will protect
us"--others say ignorance is bliss (well, I do) ...

Back in the 1980's a "deal was brokered" with the FCC (Hmmm, isn't that
when cell phones "came out?") ... cell phones fall though a "legal
loophole"--they are considered a "low powered device" and unable to do
the damage one needs to fear from a microwave oven--they are exempt,
there really is no Maximum Permissible Levels established which
manufacturers/engineers/industry can EFFECTIVELY be held to ... they
suffer virtually no regulation ... perhaps SAR, but then that is like 4w
per KG? You probably can cook an egg with that! (albeit slowly) LOL!

However, from this URL:

http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Engineeri...56/oet56e4.pdf


You will find within, "Table 1. FCC Limits for Maximum Permissible
Exposure (MPE)" and "(B) Limits for General Population/Uncontrolled
Exposure" ...

... you may draw your own conclusions about a 300mw source of cooking
frequency within 6mm of your cranium (I have been thinking about that,
the antenna is probably embedded in the middle of that case and ~3mm
from my head :-( ) ... personally, I caution my wife from standing too
close, let alone placing her forehead against the microwave door when in
operation! (she does that yanno'!)

Funny, I just always assumed the people here (well, other than the
idiots) would already be taking precautions (headsets--short
exposures/calls.)

Well I certainly do, although I might be still an idiot.

I don't find a thing wrong with your logic. Fact is, no one would ever
just allow the same RF source to be applied to their temples. They would
say we're crazy to suggest such a thing. And much less to attach such a
thing to their children.

Who here would tape a wire to their child's head with up to a watt of
power running through it at those freq's ? Child protective services
would probably declare you unfit, take the kids away from you, and you'd
probably have to register as something or another so you could be
tracked down if needed.

And yet, millions of parents do essentially the same thing, buying
their children cell phones - and doing it "to keep them safe".


I only hope to be here when they hand out the "Darwin Awards" to those
deserving--post mortem-ously for them, most likely ...


Well, I still don't think they are likely to cause cancer. The
frequency seems a bit low, and it's not as likely to cause cellular
(hehe) problems as the ionizing type radiation.

I would suspect that the effects might be more likely to be involved
with heating, or perhaps a disruption of normal brain activity.

Empirically, I have noticed that a lot of cell phone users behind the
wheel bear a scary resemblance to extremely drunken drivers. Driving
though red lights, sitting in a daze at green lights. Weaving off the
road, erratic driving in general.

I think it is quite possible that excessive cell phone usage
(hours/day) will make a person stupid.


-73 de Mike N3LI -