On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:43:35 -0700, John Smith
wrote:
And now we have Brett rolling on the floor with Art as two down.

That pretty much closes down the mutual admiration society of
Newtonian Philosopherz.
I really thought you forgot about me, yanno'? frown

Just waiting for Cecileo to sign in for the last of the Three Stoogz.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:

...
Just waiting for Cecileo to sign in for the last of the Three Stoogz.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard:

Can't go with you there; he is asking some of the same questions as
myself, just in a different way. I am just weird enough to understand
him and his questions.

Three? LOL How about Forty-Three? And those are constantly changing,
depends on the umpires, I guess ...

Regards,
JS

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:08:04 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Richard Clark wrote:

...
Just waiting for Cecileo to sign in for the last of the Three Stoogz.

Three?

All have been accounted for in muster. It wasn't that hard to find
them in the wading pool.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
Just waiting for Cecileo to sign in for the last of the Three Stoogz.

How would you ever know since you ploinked me?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:33:07 -0500, Cecil Moore
wrote:

Richard Clark wrote:
Just waiting for Cecileo to sign in for the last of the Three Stoogz.

How would you ever know since you ploinked me?

You misspelled plonk, but baby makes three. That makes the last one
who can't do the math.

73's
Richard, KB7QHC

Richard Clark wrote:
You misspelled plonk, but baby makes three. That makes the last one
who can't do the math.

The photon mass math is trivial.

E= mc^2 = hf

m = hf/c^2 = h/(c)lamda

If I remember correctly, a photon cannot travel slower
than the speed of light.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:


m = hf/c^2 = h/(c)lamda


Uh, you over simplify there, a bit, don't you?

Where is motion? Where is time? etc. However, on "energy at rest",
that might come very close ...

Regards,
JS

John Smith wrote:
Where is motion?

Velocity = c

Where is time?

Time stands still for anything traveling at
velocity = c
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com

Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Where is motion?

Velocity = c

Where is time?

Time stands still for anything traveling at
velocity = c

Yeah, well, if you take a cubic centimeter of "energy" around yourself,
of even myself, for that matter, it better be at rest! Otherwise, the
motion/time thing, which your simplistic equation ignores, will, MOST
CERTAINLY, come into play ...

However, the equation you gave is good ... but just NOT that simple for
REAL world situations ... but then, I stated that, before you gave the
equation ...

You have argued this yourself, most vehemently, with photons ... think
about it ... an argument I actually agreed with, and echo here ...
motion DOES change things, a bit ... and, it is VERY DIFFICULT to keey
energized particles at rest, but then, not impossible ;-)

Regards,
JS

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:18:49 -0500, Cecil Moore
wrote:

The photon mass math is trivial.

I still don't see a computation, so trivial must be beyond your
capacity.

E= mc^2 = hf

m = hf/c^2 = h/(c)lamda

If I remember correctly, a photon cannot travel slower
than the speed of light.

Well, we've established you can't compute it for an electron,
certainly. And this speculation about a photon.... Do it for 167,770
miles/s then.

Naw, let's simply say you've done it (there will never be any actual
evidence of your work as we can all agree), and move on. So much for
practicing Newtonian Philosopherz.

I don't "ploink" your postings, I just don't read them because they
are run off the xerox with no obvious intellectual value added - this
last round fairly confirmed that.