Clarifying Space, "Ether" and Nothingness
 

On Sep 22, 1:36*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
I think the particles of a photon pass though the ether unhindered, why?

Without the ether a photon would certainly be "hindered". :-)
How many photons have you ever known to leave the universe?
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73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

By the way, do black holes swallow ether which passes beyong the event
horizon of a black hole? That doesn't make sense since light *enters*
the black holes due to high force. Then the ether must remain intact
on both sides of the event horizon. Might Einstein have been talking
about the ether of being the FORCE of gravity itself (in our point of
reference), which would be an abstract ether, not a physical one?

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On Sep 22, 8:55*pm, Cecil Moore wrote:
JB wrote:
Oh but if it can make the clock disappear as easily as sucking out all the
ether...

Sorry, I don't recall saying that sucking out all the
ether is even possible, much less easy.
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73, Cecil *http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

It is difficult to suck out an abstraction (at least without imbibing
in the spirits).

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On Sep 22, 9:38*pm, "JB" wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message

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JB wrote:
* So a black cloth is somehow able to displace the Ether?

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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What a strange irrational conclusion.

JB wrote:
Oh but if it can make the clock disappear as easily as sucking out all
the
ether...

Gotcha.

Man, whatever you are on, I'd try it once, in the mountains, on a
weekend, but only if medical science could guarantee there wasn't
permanent brain damage or flashbacks--and it wore off shortly!

Maybe a twelve-step program?; *have you considered that?

Regards,
JS

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Never mind his silly senility eruptions. I think he had one too many
LSD trips in the 60's.

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JB wrote:

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Looking for substance?


Not a substance then?; My gawd man, then consider mental health!

Regards,
JS

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It is difficult to suck out an abstraction (at least without imbibing
in the spirits).

BINGO!

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Looking for substance?


Not a substance then?; My gawd man, then consider mental health!

Regards,
JS

Man, You're the ones sucking up all the Ether and blowing smoke rings.

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wrote:
It is possible to consider that as a possible explanation provided
that the hypothesis of exotic dark matter can ever be shown to exist
physically, which it can't.

Sorry, that is incorrect. It has been shown there is more
matter associated with galaxies than we can see. The part
we can see is thought to be about 5% of the universe. Dark
matter possesses conventional gravity and apparently makes
up about 30% of the universe.

For that hypothesis to be true, of course we must
verify that alleged exotic matter, which cannot be observed, has a
negative gravitational force relative to physical mass, ...

Sorry, that is incorrect. The thing thought to be responsible
for the expansion of the universe is Dark Energy causing an
expansion pressure. Dark Energy is thought to account for
65% of the universe.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

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wrote:
It is so encouraging to note that our technical gurus gain their
scientific basis from the science writers at time.com. Wikipedia
too ;-)

You are certainly free to prove them wrong.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

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wrote:
That would be the total sum of all photons that have ever passed
beyond the event horizons of all black holes in the universe. That
might turn out to be quite a few photons.

I don't consider black holes to be outside of the universe.
In fact, massive black holes are the opposite of "absolute
nothing". They are so massive, they have collapsed the
structure of space, i.e. the ether.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

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wrote:
By the way, do black holes swallow ether which passes beyond the event
horizon of a black hole?

Yes, the structure of space collapses along with everything else.

Might Einstein have been talking
about the ether of being the FORCE of gravity itself (in our point of
reference), which would be an abstract ether, not a physical one?

All you have to prove is that gravity can warp an abstraction.
Does gravity warp God?
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein