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Jim Kelley September 23rd 08 09:06 PM

A Sunspot
 
Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India).

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html

ac6xg

Jeff Liebermann[_2_] September 23rd 08 09:30 PM

A Sunspot
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:06:20 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:

Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India).
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html
ac6xg


Where? I don't see any spots.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_mdi_igr.mpg

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Cecil Moore[_2_] September 23rd 08 09:51 PM

A Sunspot
 
Jim Kelley wrote:
Cycle 24 has begun


Guess I need to get my full wavelength 10m rotatable
dipole in the air, huh? I've been waiting for another
cycle like 1958 when I could work the world on a coat-
hanger hanging off my DX-40.
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

Jim Kelley September 23rd 08 10:09 PM

A Sunspot
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:06:20 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:

Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India).
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html
ac6xg


Where? I don't see any spots.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_mdi_igr.mpg


You have to defocus your eyes and stare at it for a while. It looks
like an airplane. :-)

http://www.spaceweather.com/images20...oll6uoo8vkg257

ac6xg





Dave September 23rd 08 10:54 PM

A Sunspot
 

"Jim Kelley" wrote in message
...
Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India).

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html

ac6xg


spots? Spots?!? SPOTS?!?!?! we don't need no stinking spots!

besides those probably will spew more of art's magical mystery particles and
bury my ferromagnetic material antennas under piles of weak force static
neutrinos. or maybe it will give us something more fun to talk about?



Sal M. Onella September 24th 08 06:02 AM

A Sunspot
 

"Jim Kelley" wrote in message
...
Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India).

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html

ac6xg


Weren't spots 981 and 990 counted as Cycle 24? They were just little burps,
but they were true Cycle 24, I think.

I find http://www.solarcycle24.com/ interesting. Have not tested it for
accuracy, authenticity, etc. (I'm not smart enough.)



Jeff Liebermann[_2_] September 24th 08 06:42 AM

A Sunspot
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:09:33 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:06:20 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:

Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India).
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html
ac6xg


Where? I don't see any spots.
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_mdi_igr.mpg


You have to defocus your eyes and stare at it for a while. It looks
like an airplane. :-)


Without my glasses, everything looks like an airplane.

http://www.spaceweather.com/images20...oll6uoo8vkg257


That's not a sunspot. More like a sundot. I wonder if there's a
minimum size to be considered a sunspot?

Sunspot 1002 was there for about that last 2 weeks, but now seems to
have disappeared.
http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm
http://www.solarcycle24.com/sc24.htm

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

John Smith September 24th 08 07:28 AM

A Sunspot
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote:


Without my glasses, everything looks like an airplane.

That's not a sunspot. More like a sundot. I wonder if there's a
minimum size to be considered a sunspot?

Sunspot 1002 was there for about that last 2 weeks, but now seems to
have disappeared.
http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm
http://www.solarcycle24.com/sc24.htm


WAIT!

Let me scan the 10m band ... uh, yeah, it must be a "sun dot." But
then, I don't have have the magnifiers on ...

Regards,
JS

Cecil Moore[_2_] September 25th 08 12:52 PM

A Sunspot
 
Jim Kelley wrote:
Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India).

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

Jim Kelley September 25th 08 04:05 PM

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Cecil Moore wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1


Roger. Yes, this is the one I saw:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...tm?list1112475

You can subscribe and they email blurbs to you once or twice a week. We
may be in for some global cooling (and poor condx).

73, ac6xg



Art Unwin September 25th 08 05:06 PM

A Sunspot
 
On Sep 25, 10:05*am, Jim Kelley wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...9aw25a&show_ar....


Roger. Yes, this is the one I saw:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...tm?list1112475

You can subscribe and they email blurbs to you once or twice a week. *We
may be in for some global cooling (and poor condx).

73, ac6xg


I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement.
It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North
Pole had reached Siberia
and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to
the lack of
cyclic motion the same as the Sun? Last time that happened it was
credited of
ridding the world of it's monsters,
Can this forcast the end of this newsgroup as we to have more than
our share monsters that we can deal with.
Art

Art Unwin September 25th 08 06:08 PM

A Sunspot
 
On Sep 25, 11:06*am, Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 25, 10:05*am, Jim Kelley wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...9aw25a&show_ar...


Roger. Yes, this is the one I saw:


http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...tm?list1112475


You can subscribe and they email blurbs to you once or twice a week. *We
may be in for some global cooling (and poor condx).


73, ac6xg


I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement.
It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North
Pole had reached Siberia
and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to
the lack of
cyclic motion *the same as the Sun? Last time that happened it was
credited of
ridding the world of it's monsters,
*Can this forcast the end of this newsgroup as we to have more than
our share monsters that we can deal with.
Art


Sorry. Didn't mean to call some of you monsters.! Aged dynasaures
is much more appropriate
Art

Jim Kelley September 25th 08 06:14 PM

A Sunspot
 
Cecil Moore wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote:
We may be in for some global cooling ...


Al Gore doesn't seem to realize that the temperatures
peaked 8000 years ago and we are headed for another
ice age as we speak.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I...emperature.png


Al Gore is even urging civil disobedience to prevent
coal-fired generation plants from going on line. Isn't
civil disobedience illegal?

http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegrea...obedience.html


Maybe it's the only way he can think of to try to get his speaker's fee
up over $200,000 like Jerry Seinfeld. :-)

73, ac6xg

Cecil Moore[_2_] September 25th 08 06:17 PM

A Sunspot
 
Jim Kelley wrote:
We may be in for some global cooling ...


Al Gore doesn't seem to realize that the temperatures
peaked 8000 years ago and we are headed for another
ice age as we speak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I...emperature.png

Al Gore is even urging civil disobedience to prevent
coal-fired generation plants from going on line. Isn't
civil disobedience illegal?

http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegrea...obedience.html

--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

Jim Kelley September 25th 08 06:17 PM

A Sunspot
 
Cecil Moore wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement.
It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North
Pole had reached Siberia
and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to
the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun?


http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...pole-reversal/

"The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic
poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides
in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals
throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic
poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal,
the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause
problems for inhabitants of the planet."


Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-)

73, ac6xg

Cecil Moore[_2_] September 25th 08 06:22 PM

A Sunspot
 
Art Unwin wrote:
I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement.
It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North
Pole had reached Siberia
and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to
the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun?


http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...pole-reversal/

"The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic
poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides
in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals
throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic
poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal,
the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause
problems for inhabitants of the planet."
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

Cecil Moore[_2_] September 25th 08 08:05 PM

A Sunspot
 
Jim Kelley wrote:
Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-)


Thus driving the migratory birds crazy. :-)

I once picked up some free magnetism by orienting an
iron rod N/S and hitting it with a hammer. Could I
have been the cause of the weakening?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

Jim Lux September 25th 08 09:19 PM

A Sunspot
 
Jim Kelley wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement.
It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North
Pole had reached Siberia
and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to
the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun?


http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...pole-reversal/


"The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic
poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides
in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals
throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic
poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal,
the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause
problems for inhabitants of the planet."


Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-)

73, ac6xg


The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians
have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites:
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php

http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.php has a map showing
the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off
the Siberian coast.

Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation.


Among other things:
Many authors have pointed out that the dipole part of the magnetic field
has been weakening during historic times, and that if the present trend
continues, the dipole field will go to zero in roughly 1500 years. Some
people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal.

Dave September 25th 08 11:06 PM

A Sunspot
 

"Jim Lux" wrote in message
...
Jim Kelley wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement.
It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North
Pole had reached Siberia
and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to
the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun?

http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...pole-reversal/

"The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic
poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides
in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals
throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic
poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal,
the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause
problems for inhabitants of the planet."


Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-)

73, ac6xg


The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians have
a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites:
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php

http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.php has a map showing the
movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off the
Siberian coast.

Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation.


OH! OH! PROOF OF THE DIAMAGNETIC STATIC NEUTRINO FLUX!!! what else could
cause it to fluctuate like that every day! ART MUST BE RIGHT!! Either that
or i've already had one too many tonight.



Jim Kelley September 25th 08 11:59 PM

A Sunspot
 
Jim Lux wrote:
The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians
have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better
websites:
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php


http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.php has a map showing
the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off
the Siberian coast.

Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation.


Yes. Perhaps that relates to what Art was asking about.

Among other things:
Many authors have pointed out that the dipole part of the magnetic field
has been weakening during historic times, and that if the present trend
continues, the dipole field will go to zero in roughly 1500 years. Some
people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal.


Maybe Al Gore should look into this. Cheryl Crow could do a college tour.

Good links, Jim. Thanks.

ac6xg

Richard Clark September 26th 08 01:37 AM

A Sunspot
 
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:59:10 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:

people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal.


Maybe Al Gore should look into this. Cheryl Crow could do a college tour.


Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party when the
White House tells us the private finance market can't do the job as
well as the government. [If all those companies are slipping into the
big sleep, then the Grand Old Party must have welded the greater fool
model into their platform for this dumpster diving orgy.]

The new compassionate conservative model of unemployment compensation:

1. Have you been indicted this week, such that it keeps you from
seeking work? Skip to #4 if so, but only if you are white,
married, Christian and live in the Hampsteads or can show
mortgages for 5 residences located in no fewer than two states and
one foreign capitol.

2. Have you sought a CEO position this week?

3. List three Board Directors you have contacted this week.

4. If you have satisfactorily answered these questions, pick up
$10million from the public trough and check with us next week.

Remember, unemployment compensation is NOT an entitlement, it is your
special right for having achieved such success in your field of
endeavor. Without your highly productive skills America would be
weaker in the eyes of the world. We know that $10million is a pale
compensation compared to the value you have provided to democracy, but
in these times many have to set aside personal needs for the sake of
keeping the titans of the financial market like PayDayLoans solvent.
Your patience and magnanimity means a lot for the millions of
under-employed that rely on this company.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Art Unwin September 26th 08 02:03 AM

A Sunspot
 
On Sep 25, 5:06*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Jim Lux" wrote in message

...



Jim Kelley wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement.
It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North
Pole had reached Siberia
and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to
the lack of cyclic motion *the same as the Sun?


http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...netic-pole-rev....


"The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic
poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides
in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals
throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic
poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal,
the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause
problems for inhabitants of the planet."


Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-)


73, ac6xg


The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians have
a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites:
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php


http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.phphas a map showing the
movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off the
Siberian coast.


Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation..


OH! OH! PROOF OF THE DIAMAGNETIC STATIC NEUTRINO FLUX!!! *what else could
cause it to fluctuate like that every day! *ART MUST BE RIGHT!! *Either that
or i've already had one too many tonight.


Possibly, but it didn't produce change! You must drink alot if we
can't tell if you have stopped drinking
Stop drinking and you then may understand equilibrium

Art Unwin September 26th 08 04:17 AM

A Sunspot
 
On Sep 25, 5:59*pm, Jim Kelley wrote:
Jim Lux wrote:
The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians
have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better
websites:
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.phphas a map showing
the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off
the Siberian coast.


Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation..


Yes. *Perhaps that relates to what Art was asking about.

Among other things:
Many authors have pointed out that the dipole part of the magnetic field
has been weakening during historic times, and that if the present trend
continues, the dipole field will go to zero in roughly 1500 years. Some
people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal.


Maybe Al Gore should look into this. *Cheryl Crow could do a college tour.

Good links, Jim. *Thanks.

ac6xg


Yes that is what I was talking about,With the poles of the Sun showing
no evidence of continuing its rotation
and where the poles of the Earth are accelerating instead of slowing
it could easily be seen as a tranfer of momentum or inertia.
If the Sun becomes passive and the Earth rotates on a eleven year
cycle. then a ice age could appear in the next 11 years!
11 years is starkly different to the 1000s of years that scientists
usually talk about. If the pole continuese this accelleration what is
there to stop it?
Let's hope the Sun shows some activity so I can test my antenna using
the "strong force" instead of the "weak force" and really shake this
group up.
Art

JIMMIE September 26th 08 03:51 PM

A Sunspot
 
On Sep 25, 6:59*pm, Jim Kelley wrote:
Jim Lux wrote:
The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians
have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better
websites:
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.phphas a map showing
the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off
the Siberian coast.


Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation..


Yes. *Perhaps that relates to what Art was asking about.

Among other things:
Many authors have pointed out that the dipole part of the magnetic field
has been weakening during historic times, and that if the present trend
continues, the dipole field will go to zero in roughly 1500 years. Some
people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal.


Maybe Al Gore should look into this. *Cheryl Crow could do a college tour.

Good links, Jim. *Thanks.

ac6xg


Anyone notice the movement of the poles matches up pretty well with Al
Gores "hockey stick graph".

Jimmie

Jim Kelley September 26th 08 06:37 PM

A Sunspot
 
Richard Clark wrote:

Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party when the
White House tells us the private finance market can't do the job as
well as the government.


We seem to have touched a nerve. :-)

ac6xg

Richard Clark September 26th 08 06:54 PM

A Sunspot
 
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:37:51 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote:

people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal.


Maybe Al Gore should look into this. Cheryl Crow could do a college tour.


Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party


What a difference less than 12 hours makes when the Republican party
now claims both poles to the solution to the financial market crisis.

McCain is screwed either way (but in all honesty, at that grand table
in the White Hovel he was already the turkey center piece); wonder
what his vice-muffin, Sara Lee, would do? Carve?

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Jim Kelley September 26th 08 09:30 PM

A Sunspot
 
Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:37:35 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:

Richard Clark wrote:

Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party when the
White House tells us the private finance market can't do the job as
well as the government.

We seem to have touched a nerve. :-)


That's what Galvani said about the frog's leg.


Yes, but I don't think he wasn't referring to you. Was he?

73, AC6XG :-)

Richard Harrison September 26th 08 09:52 PM

A Sunspot
 
Richard Clark wrote:
"----wonder what his vice-muffin, Sara Lee, would do? Carve?"

Careful. Remember "Nobody doesn`t like Sara Lee!"

Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI


Richard Clark September 26th 08 10:14 PM

A Sunspot
 
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:37:35 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:

Richard Clark wrote:

Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party when the
White House tells us the private finance market can't do the job as
well as the government.


We seem to have touched a nerve. :-)


That's what Galvani said about the frog's leg. Republicans merely
polished the science of that jerk-reflex and both sides of the same
party are tugging hard on our wallet - not just touching. And in the
middle of it all, McCain sat through the crisis meeting like he had
suffered a brain aneurysm.

At least he got to nominate his own night-nurse to change the silver
drool cup this evening. Our first presidential candidate on
life-support.... Sara Jane may try an experiment with silver and
copper forks on him to get him to twitch for the cameras - if she can
find any nerve, that is.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark September 27th 08 12:07 AM

A Sunspot
 
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:30:46 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote:

We seem to have touched a nerve. :-)


That's what Galvani said about the frog's leg.


Yes, but I don't think he wasn't referring to you. Was he?


Consider, we've see two twitches from you as well - and comedy needs a
straight man, Thanx. McCain could work too, if it weren't for the
rigor mortis.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

Richard Clark September 27th 08 12:24 AM

A Sunspot
 
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:20 -0500, (Richard
Harrison) wrote:

Careful. Remember "Nobody doesn`t like Sara Lee!"


Paired up with a 110 year old Pillsbury Dough Boy without any yeast?
That won't raise any bread on Wall Street.... ;-(

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

John Smith September 27th 08 05:59 AM

A Sunspot
 
Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:20 -0500, (Richard
Harrison) wrote:

Careful. Remember "Nobody doesn`t like Sara Lee!"


Paired up with a 110 year old Pillsbury Dough Boy without any yeast?
That won't raise any bread on Wall Street.... ;-(

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC


Remember when a 1 oz. gold piece, worth about $20 bucks during the gold
rush, would buy a nice suit?

Guess, what? That same 1 oz. of gold would still buy a nice suit today!
-- Does that tell you anything? grin

I mean, ever hear of the term, "Being hit over the head with a frying
pan?" ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

Cecil Moore[_2_] September 27th 08 03:05 PM

A Sunspot
 
John Smith wrote:
Remember when a 1 oz. gold piece, worth about $20 bucks during the gold
rush, would buy a nice suit?

Guess, what? That same 1 oz. of gold would still buy a nice suit today!
-- Does that tell you anything? grin


4500% inflation?
--
73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

John Smith September 27th 08 04:41 PM

A Sunspot
 
Cecil Moore wrote:

...
4500% inflation?


That, and you have to ask yourself the question, "What am I doing with
these dollars stuck in a bank, while they start up the presses to print
a trillion(s) worthless bucks?

How much value will the dollar lose?; And, will I be able to fit enough
dollars in a wheelbarrow to buy a suit? :-(

Regards,
JS

gwatts September 27th 08 05:28 PM

A Sunspot
 
Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Remember when a 1 oz. gold piece, worth about $20 bucks during the
gold rush, would buy a nice suit?

Guess, what? That same 1 oz. of gold would still buy a nice suit
today! -- Does that tell you anything? grin


4500% inflation?


No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's.

Cecil Moore[_2_] September 27th 08 05:43 PM

A Sunspot
 
gwatts wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
4500% inflation?


No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's.


I didn't say per year. 4500% inflation is what has happened
to this country during my lifetime. Bush 43 is one of the
worst offenders and "we ain't seen nothing yet".
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Cecil Moore[_2_] September 27th 08 05:44 PM

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John Smith wrote:
How much value will the dollar lose?


I suspect if they were all still in silver certificates,
you might not be in all that bad of shape.
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73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com
"According to the general theory of relativity,
space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein

John Smith September 27th 08 05:53 PM

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Cecil Moore wrote:
gwatts wrote:
...
No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's.


I didn't say per year. 4500% inflation is what has happened
to this country during my lifetime. Bush 43 is one of the
worst offenders and "we ain't seen nothing yet".


Or, to summarize:

Evil forebodes what these ill winds blow?

Regards,
JS

gwatts September 27th 08 05:58 PM

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Cecil Moore wrote:
gwatts wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
4500% inflation?


No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's.


I didn't say per year.


No, you didn't say 'per' anything. The word 'Inflation,' without any
qualifiers, implies 'per year.' Per your lifetime is an ambiguous
reference and more so since apparently you're not dead yet.

John Smith September 27th 08 06:02 PM

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gwatts wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
gwatts wrote:
...
No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's.


I didn't say per year.


No, you didn't say 'per' anything. The word 'Inflation,' without any
qualifiers, implies 'per year.' Per your lifetime is an ambiguous
reference and more so since apparently you're not dead yet.


So, someone missed the implied meaning?

How about, "Accumulated inflation over the intervening years?"

Regards,
JS


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