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Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India).
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:06:20 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote: Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India). http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html ac6xg Where? I don't see any spots. http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_mdi_igr.mpg -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jim Kelley wrote:
Cycle 24 has begun Guess I need to get my full wavelength 10m rotatable dipole in the air, huh? I've been waiting for another cycle like 1958 when I could work the world on a coat- hanger hanging off my DX-40. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:06:20 -0700, Jim Kelley wrote: Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India). http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html ac6xg Where? I don't see any spots. http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_mdi_igr.mpg You have to defocus your eyes and stare at it for a while. It looks like an airplane. :-) http://www.spaceweather.com/images20...oll6uoo8vkg257 ac6xg |
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"Jim Kelley" wrote in message ... Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India). http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html ac6xg spots? Spots?!? SPOTS?!?!?! we don't need no stinking spots! besides those probably will spew more of art's magical mystery particles and bury my ferromagnetic material antennas under piles of weak force static neutrinos. or maybe it will give us something more fun to talk about? |
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"Jim Kelley" wrote in message ... Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India). http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html ac6xg Weren't spots 981 and 990 counted as Cycle 24? They were just little burps, but they were true Cycle 24, I think. I find http://www.solarcycle24.com/ interesting. Have not tested it for accuracy, authenticity, etc. (I'm not smart enough.) |
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:09:33 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:06:20 -0700, Jim Kelley wrote: Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India). http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html ac6xg Where? I don't see any spots. http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/mdi_igr/1024/latest.html http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_mdi_igr.mpg You have to defocus your eyes and stare at it for a while. It looks like an airplane. :-) Without my glasses, everything looks like an airplane. http://www.spaceweather.com/images20...oll6uoo8vkg257 That's not a sunspot. More like a sundot. I wonder if there's a minimum size to be considered a sunspot? Sunspot 1002 was there for about that last 2 weeks, but now seems to have disappeared. http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm http://www.solarcycle24.com/sc24.htm -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Without my glasses, everything looks like an airplane. That's not a sunspot. More like a sundot. I wonder if there's a minimum size to be considered a sunspot? Sunspot 1002 was there for about that last 2 weeks, but now seems to have disappeared. http://www.solarcycle24.com/index2.htm http://www.solarcycle24.com/sc24.htm WAIT! Let me scan the 10m band ... uh, yeah, it must be a "sun dot." But then, I don't have have the magnifiers on ... Regards, JS |
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Jim Kelley wrote:
Cycle 24 has begun (from the Times of India). http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/...me-update.html http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1 -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1 Roger. Yes, this is the one I saw: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...tm?list1112475 You can subscribe and they email blurbs to you once or twice a week. We may be in for some global cooling (and poor condx). 73, ac6xg |
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On Sep 25, 10:05*am, Jim Kelley wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...9aw25a&show_ar.... Roger. Yes, this is the one I saw: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...tm?list1112475 You can subscribe and they email blurbs to you once or twice a week. *We may be in for some global cooling (and poor condx). 73, ac6xg I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement. It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North Pole had reached Siberia and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun? Last time that happened it was credited of ridding the world of it's monsters, Can this forcast the end of this newsgroup as we to have more than our share monsters that we can deal with. Art |
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On Sep 25, 11:06*am, Art Unwin wrote:
On Sep 25, 10:05*am, Jim Kelley wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...9aw25a&show_ar... Roger. Yes, this is the one I saw: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2...tm?list1112475 You can subscribe and they email blurbs to you once or twice a week. *We may be in for some global cooling (and poor condx). 73, ac6xg I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement. It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North Pole had reached Siberia and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to the lack of cyclic motion *the same as the Sun? Last time that happened it was credited of ridding the world of it's monsters, *Can this forcast the end of this newsgroup as we to have more than our share monsters that we can deal with. Art Sorry. Didn't mean to call some of you monsters.! Aged dynasaures is much more appropriate Art |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote: We may be in for some global cooling ... Al Gore doesn't seem to realize that the temperatures peaked 8000 years ago and we are headed for another ice age as we speak. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I...emperature.png Al Gore is even urging civil disobedience to prevent coal-fired generation plants from going on line. Isn't civil disobedience illegal? http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegrea...obedience.html Maybe it's the only way he can think of to try to get his speaker's fee up over $200,000 like Jerry Seinfeld. :-) 73, ac6xg |
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Jim Kelley wrote:
We may be in for some global cooling ... Al Gore doesn't seem to realize that the temperatures peaked 8000 years ago and we are headed for another ice age as we speak. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:I...emperature.png Al Gore is even urging civil disobedience to prevent coal-fired generation plants from going on line. Isn't civil disobedience illegal? http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegrea...obedience.html -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
Art Unwin wrote: I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement. It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North Pole had reached Siberia and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun? http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...pole-reversal/ "The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal, the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause problems for inhabitants of the planet." Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-) 73, ac6xg |
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Art Unwin wrote:
I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement. It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North Pole had reached Siberia and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun? http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...pole-reversal/ "The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal, the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause problems for inhabitants of the planet." -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein |
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Jim Kelley wrote:
Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-) Thus driving the migratory birds crazy. :-) I once picked up some free magnetism by orienting an iron rod N/S and hitting it with a hammer. Could I have been the cause of the weakening? -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein |
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Jim Kelley wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: Art Unwin wrote: I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement. It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North Pole had reached Siberia and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun? http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...pole-reversal/ "The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal, the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause problems for inhabitants of the planet." Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-) 73, ac6xg The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites: http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.php has a map showing the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off the Siberian coast. Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation. Among other things: Many authors have pointed out that the dipole part of the magnetic field has been weakening during historic times, and that if the present trend continues, the dipole field will go to zero in roughly 1500 years. Some people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal. |
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"Jim Lux" wrote in message ... Jim Kelley wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: Art Unwin wrote: I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement. It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North Pole had reached Siberia and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to the lack of cyclic motion the same as the Sun? http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...pole-reversal/ "The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal, the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause problems for inhabitants of the planet." Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-) 73, ac6xg The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites: http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.php has a map showing the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off the Siberian coast. Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation. OH! OH! PROOF OF THE DIAMAGNETIC STATIC NEUTRINO FLUX!!! what else could cause it to fluctuate like that every day! ART MUST BE RIGHT!! Either that or i've already had one too many tonight. |
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Jim Lux wrote:
The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites: http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.php has a map showing the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off the Siberian coast. Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation. Yes. Perhaps that relates to what Art was asking about. Among other things: Many authors have pointed out that the dipole part of the magnetic field has been weakening during historic times, and that if the present trend continues, the dipole field will go to zero in roughly 1500 years. Some people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal. Maybe Al Gore should look into this. Cheryl Crow could do a college tour. Good links, Jim. Thanks. ac6xg |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:59:10 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote: people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal. Maybe Al Gore should look into this. Cheryl Crow could do a college tour. Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party when the White House tells us the private finance market can't do the job as well as the government. [If all those companies are slipping into the big sleep, then the Grand Old Party must have welded the greater fool model into their platform for this dumpster diving orgy.] The new compassionate conservative model of unemployment compensation: 1. Have you been indicted this week, such that it keeps you from seeking work? Skip to #4 if so, but only if you are white, married, Christian and live in the Hampsteads or can show mortgages for 5 residences located in no fewer than two states and one foreign capitol. 2. Have you sought a CEO position this week? 3. List three Board Directors you have contacted this week. 4. If you have satisfactorily answered these questions, pick up $10million from the public trough and check with us next week. Remember, unemployment compensation is NOT an entitlement, it is your special right for having achieved such success in your field of endeavor. Without your highly productive skills America would be weaker in the eyes of the world. We know that $10million is a pale compensation compared to the value you have provided to democracy, but in these times many have to set aside personal needs for the sake of keeping the titans of the financial market like PayDayLoans solvent. Your patience and magnanimity means a lot for the millions of under-employed that rely on this company. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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On Sep 25, 5:06*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Jim Lux" wrote in message ... Jim Kelley wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: Art Unwin wrote: I would really like to know about the North Pole's movement. It too has a cyclic motion and the last I heard was that the North Pole had reached Siberia and showed no signs yet of returning. Is the Earth going to respond to the lack of cyclic motion *the same as the Sun? http://ddig.wordpress.com/2008/06/05...netic-pole-rev.... "The magnetic poles wander around the vicinity of the geographic poles all the time – the north magnetic pole currently resides in the Canadian Arctic. However, at relatively regular intervals throughout the 4.5 billion year history of the planet, the magnetic poles have flipped completely. A few thousand years before a reversal, the magnetic field gradually gets weaker; something which could cause problems for inhabitants of the planet." Now if we could only get it to oscillate at 50/60 Hz........;-) 73, ac6xg The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites: http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.phphas a map showing the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off the Siberian coast. Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation.. OH! OH! PROOF OF THE DIAMAGNETIC STATIC NEUTRINO FLUX!!! *what else could cause it to fluctuate like that every day! *ART MUST BE RIGHT!! *Either that or i've already had one too many tonight. Possibly, but it didn't produce change! You must drink alot if we can't tell if you have stopped drinking Stop drinking and you then may understand equilibrium |
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On Sep 25, 5:59*pm, Jim Kelley wrote:
Jim Lux wrote: The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites: http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.phphas a map showing the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off the Siberian coast. Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation.. Yes. *Perhaps that relates to what Art was asking about. Among other things: Many authors have pointed out that the dipole part of the magnetic field has been weakening during historic times, and that if the present trend continues, the dipole field will go to zero in roughly 1500 years. Some people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal. Maybe Al Gore should look into this. *Cheryl Crow could do a college tour. Good links, Jim. *Thanks. ac6xg Yes that is what I was talking about,With the poles of the Sun showing no evidence of continuing its rotation and where the poles of the Earth are accelerating instead of slowing it could easily be seen as a tranfer of momentum or inertia. If the Sun becomes passive and the Earth rotates on a eleven year cycle. then a ice age could appear in the next 11 years! 11 years is starkly different to the 1000s of years that scientists usually talk about. If the pole continuese this accelleration what is there to stop it? Let's hope the Sun shows some activity so I can test my antenna using the "strong force" instead of the "weak force" and really shake this group up. Art |
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On Sep 25, 6:59*pm, Jim Kelley wrote:
Jim Lux wrote: The magnetic north pole being in (or close to) Canada, the Canadians have a quasi-proprietary interest, and they have one of the better websites: http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/northpole_e.php http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/long_mvt_nmp_e.phphas a map showing the movement. Indeed, one prediction shows that in 2050 it will be off the Siberian coast. Interesting also how it moves around 85km a day, in a diurnal variation.. Yes. *Perhaps that relates to what Art was asking about. Among other things: Many authors have pointed out that the dipole part of the magnetic field has been weakening during historic times, and that if the present trend continues, the dipole field will go to zero in roughly 1500 years. Some people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal. Maybe Al Gore should look into this. *Cheryl Crow could do a college tour. Good links, Jim. *Thanks. ac6xg Anyone notice the movement of the poles matches up pretty well with Al Gores "hockey stick graph". Jimmie |
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Richard Clark wrote:
Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party when the White House tells us the private finance market can't do the job as well as the government. We seem to have touched a nerve. :-) ac6xg |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:37:51 -0700, Richard Clark
wrote: people take this to mean that we are entering a reversal. Maybe Al Gore should look into this. Cheryl Crow could do a college tour. Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party What a difference less than 12 hours makes when the Republican party now claims both poles to the solution to the financial market crisis. McCain is screwed either way (but in all honesty, at that grand table in the White Hovel he was already the turkey center piece); wonder what his vice-muffin, Sara Lee, would do? Carve? 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:37:35 -0700, Jim Kelley wrote: Richard Clark wrote: Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party when the White House tells us the private finance market can't do the job as well as the government. We seem to have touched a nerve. :-) That's what Galvani said about the frog's leg. Yes, but I don't think he wasn't referring to you. Was he? 73, AC6XG :-) |
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Richard Clark wrote:
"----wonder what his vice-muffin, Sara Lee, would do? Carve?" Careful. Remember "Nobody doesn`t like Sara Lee!" Best regards, Richard Harrison, KB5WZI |
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:37:35 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote: Richard Clark wrote: Polar reversals are now the patent of the Republican party when the White House tells us the private finance market can't do the job as well as the government. We seem to have touched a nerve. :-) That's what Galvani said about the frog's leg. Republicans merely polished the science of that jerk-reflex and both sides of the same party are tugging hard on our wallet - not just touching. And in the middle of it all, McCain sat through the crisis meeting like he had suffered a brain aneurysm. At least he got to nominate his own night-nurse to change the silver drool cup this evening. Our first presidential candidate on life-support.... Sara Jane may try an experiment with silver and copper forks on him to get him to twitch for the cameras - if she can find any nerve, that is. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:30:46 -0700, Jim Kelley
wrote: We seem to have touched a nerve. :-) That's what Galvani said about the frog's leg. Yes, but I don't think he wasn't referring to you. Was he? Consider, we've see two twitches from you as well - and comedy needs a straight man, Thanx. McCain could work too, if it weren't for the rigor mortis. 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC |
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Richard Clark wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:20 -0500, (Richard Harrison) wrote: Careful. Remember "Nobody doesn`t like Sara Lee!" Paired up with a 110 year old Pillsbury Dough Boy without any yeast? That won't raise any bread on Wall Street.... ;-( 73's Richard Clark, KB7QHC Remember when a 1 oz. gold piece, worth about $20 bucks during the gold rush, would buy a nice suit? Guess, what? That same 1 oz. of gold would still buy a nice suit today! -- Does that tell you anything? grin I mean, ever hear of the term, "Being hit over the head with a frying pan?" ROFLOL Regards, JS |
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John Smith wrote:
Remember when a 1 oz. gold piece, worth about $20 bucks during the gold rush, would buy a nice suit? Guess, what? That same 1 oz. of gold would still buy a nice suit today! -- Does that tell you anything? grin 4500% inflation? -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
... 4500% inflation? That, and you have to ask yourself the question, "What am I doing with these dollars stuck in a bank, while they start up the presses to print a trillion(s) worthless bucks? How much value will the dollar lose?; And, will I be able to fit enough dollars in a wheelbarrow to buy a suit? :-( Regards, JS |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
John Smith wrote: Remember when a 1 oz. gold piece, worth about $20 bucks during the gold rush, would buy a nice suit? Guess, what? That same 1 oz. of gold would still buy a nice suit today! -- Does that tell you anything? grin 4500% inflation? No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's. |
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gwatts wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: 4500% inflation? No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's. I didn't say per year. 4500% inflation is what has happened to this country during my lifetime. Bush 43 is one of the worst offenders and "we ain't seen nothing yet". -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein |
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John Smith wrote:
How much value will the dollar lose? I suspect if they were all still in silver certificates, you might not be in all that bad of shape. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com "According to the general theory of relativity, space without ether is unthinkable." Albert Einstein |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
gwatts wrote: ... No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's. I didn't say per year. 4500% inflation is what has happened to this country during my lifetime. Bush 43 is one of the worst offenders and "we ain't seen nothing yet". Or, to summarize: Evil forebodes what these ill winds blow? Regards, JS |
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Cecil Moore wrote:
gwatts wrote: Cecil Moore wrote: 4500% inflation? No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's. I didn't say per year. No, you didn't say 'per' anything. The word 'Inflation,' without any qualifiers, implies 'per year.' Per your lifetime is an ambiguous reference and more so since apparently you're not dead yet. |
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gwatts wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote: gwatts wrote: ... No, about 5.5 percent. Gold hasn't been at $20/oz since the mid 1930's. I didn't say per year. No, you didn't say 'per' anything. The word 'Inflation,' without any qualifiers, implies 'per year.' Per your lifetime is an ambiguous reference and more so since apparently you're not dead yet. So, someone missed the implied meaning? How about, "Accumulated inflation over the intervening years?" Regards, JS |
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