On Nov 1, 3:51*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin



wrote:
On Nov 1, 12:33*pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:40:07 -0700 (PDT), Art Unwin

wrote:
I can easily see myself as being viewed as an "unwashed ham" on this
newsgroup !

Mabye. *Most recently, the term comes from cold war era references to
the GUM (great unwashed masses). *This was a derrogatory term for the
average intelligence of the general public. *The origin of the term
dates back to merry olde England, where it was used to refer to the
lower classes:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=29346
This may be appropriate for ham radio if you have an elitist view of
the Extra-Class license, accompanied by the usual snobbery. *As your
FCC ULS page shows you have an Advanced class license:
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=410939
this is entirely possible, but improbable. *To avoid confusion, I
suggest you upgrade to Extra-Class so that your self image improves,
and so that you not consider yourself being viewd as a lower class
"unwashed" ham.
I don't think Owen determined "unwashed: by the number of FCC
examinations passed.

Who be this Owen? *

I suspect he was refering to those who do not have a leaning towards
the science and physics of ham radio
but just want a license to be a talking head. How this type of person
views another is of no consequence

We have a substantial number of hams locally that are only interested
in emergency services and have no interest in the technical aspects of
ham radio beyond operating their radios. *I'm sure they will be
thrilled to know that their views are of no consequence.

unless all reverts back to the middle ages where death can be a
consquence of any challenge to the status quo.
Art

Yea verily. *Methinks trial by combat be the manner in which all
arguments should be settled. *It worked well in the middle ages where
all the combative types conveniently exterminated each other, leaving
only the peaceful and tolerant, thus laying the path for the
Renaissance. * Perhaps it be a worthy enterprise to return to trial by
combat in ham radio. *That should clear out the endless political
debates, reduce pileups, and promote harmony on various bands.

--
Jeff Liebermann * *
150 Felker St #D * *http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann * * AE6KS * *831-336-2558

No, I don't go along with those who choose ethnic cleansing
nor by those who accumulate the most wealth or those who determine
that God is on their side or the strong that are determined to
dominate
the weak. All nations that have followed this path in history lose out
in numbers
until their ways change, never to rise again as the future holds for
them " kill and be killed" by the many they have harmed.
I suspect that the next change in size of nations
will be the Middle East as all sides have moved towards permanent sin
that will never be forgiven and where some are willing to give
themselves
while taking all, leaving nothing but a desert while the tolerant have
presettled
else where they remove themselves from pre ethnic pasts.
Could we now possibly go back to radio and antennas which is what the
newsgroup
is set up for?
Art