"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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On Nov 9, 4:51 am, "Dave" wrote:

For instance I easily can see the updraft of moisture also including
neutrinos
which becomes a lightning discharge as the moisture changes in
temperature and forming ice
where the neutrinos clump and return to earth in a strike containing a
magnetic field which can be seen asd totally disabling any compass
needle
as well as the
circular currents created to form tornadoes and whirlpools just as
eddy currfents are created.

now that will put some researchers out on their buns after a lifes worth of
work studying lighting as electrons. its only neutrinos, they have been
barking up the wrong tree all along, the first 'masters' studied lightning
and static electricity they understood it to be movement of electrons, but
they were all wrong. even gauss must be wrong now since his fields are
based on the same static charges caused by electrons and protrons.
neutrinos have no charge, their motion can not cause a magnetic field, nor
do they cause tornadoes. thanks for a good laugh on an otherwise dull day.

On Nov 9, 1:03*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...
On Nov 9, 4:51 am, "Dave" wrote:

For instance I easily can see the updraft of moisture also including
neutrinos
which becomes a lightning discharge as the moisture changes in
temperature and forming ice
where the neutrinos clump and return to earth in a strike containing a
magnetic field which can be seen asd totally disabling any compass
needle
as well as the
circular currents created to form tornadoes and whirlpools just as
eddy currfents are created.

now that will put some researchers out on their buns after a lifes worth of
work studying lighting as electrons. *its only neutrinos, they have been
barking up the wrong tree all along, the first 'masters' studied lightning
and static electricity they understood it to be movement of electrons, but
they were all wrong. *even gauss must be wrong now since his fields are
based on the same static charges caused by electrons and protrons.
neutrinos have no charge, their motion can not cause a magnetic field, nor
do they cause tornadoes. *thanks for a good laugh on an otherwise dull day.

Interesting but the neutrinos can obtain a charge when entering the
Aether
which in itself I see as a magnetic field of particles enclosed by an
arbtrary border.
When one complets the math of comparing Gauss's law of static compared
with
his law of magnetics contained in Maxwell's laws it is not enough to
leave it at that,
a single mathematical excercize you must go on and compare with other
phenomina and physics matrhematics so your fi8ndings do not clash with
known and accepted phenomina
where substitution of ones findings can be inserted into other
accepted physics formula in terms of interconnecting
truth. Tbhus my findings have to supported by the mathematics in form
of substitutions in accepted and existing formula
as well as in the experimental trail. Thus my work has to be extended
not only by experimental results but also
via substitution in other formular excercised in other areas, this
took time but eventually I succeeded.
As far as the weather is concerned what creats lightning or tornadoes
and many other things have not been previously explained
such that they would be verified from another direction that includes
my findings.
So my thinking are not just idle thought but an effort to match my
physics findings with those of others an d this ofcourse includes the
identification of all four forces of the universe so advances can be
made on a solid foundation.
Weather is a bit chilly but not cold enough to prevent tower and
antenna work
Best regards
Art KB9MZ......,..XG

On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:03:41 GMT, "Dave" wrote:


"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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On Nov 9, 4:51 am, "Dave" wrote:

For instance I easily can see the updraft of moisture also including
neutrinos
which becomes a lightning discharge as the moisture changes in
temperature and forming ice
where the neutrinos clump and return to earth in a strike containing a
magnetic field which can be seen asd totally disabling any compass
needle
as well as the
circular currents created to form tornadoes and whirlpools just as
eddy currfents are created.

now that will put some researchers out on their buns after a lifes worth of
work studying lighting as electrons. its only neutrinos, they have been
barking up the wrong tree all along, the first 'masters' studied lightning
and static electricity they understood it to be movement of electrons, but
they were all wrong. even gauss must be wrong now since his fields are
based on the same static charges caused by electrons and protrons.
neutrinos have no charge, their motion can not cause a magnetic field, nor
do they cause tornadoes. thanks for a good laugh on an otherwise dull day.


Dave,

You interpret his quote too broadly (understandable given the murk
that has to be penetrated). If you re-read the quote you offer, it
offers absolutely nothing that distinguishes the participation of
neutrinos in the process.

Neutrinos don't
1. constitute a current (they are neutral!);
2. become a lightning discharge (they go for the ride!);
3. have a magnetic field (they don't have a charge!);
4. upset a compass (they are inert!);
5. create currents (they don't have any mass!);
6. form tornadoes and whirlpools (not enough magik!).

Basically, neutrinos are freeloading bums whose only accomplishment is
to queue up for a dole. If they move with a current (which is
doubtful given their aversion to work), it is like a hobo riding the
rails. To say a hobo runs the nation's railroads is equally absurd.
Neutrinos cannot even summon up a charge where the panhandler on the
street is far more productive.

Neutrinos only rub shoulders with the doers and shakers (electrons and
ions) so that they can seem important by association. This is why
they are the pathetic cousin in physics who have to be flung at high
speeds into targets to get them to perform any form of useful work.

Neutrinos remind me of the time when Hare Krishnas, to look mystical
and spiritual, danced and clanged their cymbals in airports for spare
change.

Trying to offer neutrinos as important is the intellectual equivalent
of portraying skid-row as the Valhalla of learning.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Nov 9, 1:03*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...
On Nov 9, 4:51 am, "Dave" wrote:

For instance I easily can see the updraft of moisture also including
neutrinos
which becomes a lightning discharge as the moisture changes in
temperature and forming ice
where the neutrinos clump and return to earth in a strike containing a
magnetic field which can be seen asd totally disabling any compass
needle
as well as the
circular currents created to form tornadoes and whirlpools just as
eddy currfents are created.

now that will put some researchers out on their buns after a lifes worth of
work studying lighting as electrons. *its only neutrinos, they have been
barking up the wrong tree all along, the first 'masters' studied lightning
and static electricity they understood it to be movement of electrons, but
they were all wrong. *even gauss must be wrong now since his fields are
based on the same static charges caused by electrons and protrons.
neutrinos have no charge, their motion can not cause a magnetic field, nor
do they cause tornadoes. *thanks for a good laugh on an otherwise dull day.

David
You must read and understant the "electromagnetic properties of
Neutrinos"
which is up to date. You should be able to google it. In the last
decade many new facts have come to light with respect to Neutrinos
which is in fact driving the huge expeditures at CERN.
There are a lot of people usually older people who rely on the books
they used in college
50 years ago such they feel all is known and therefore do not keep up
with studies since money becomes
the replacement. If you google the title I gave you it will bring you
up to date within a year or so which will
allow you to weed out old assertions uttered by those who have retired
from study.
If it is dismal and cold in Michigan then make use of the evening by
reading up on the subject to get up to date
Regards
Art

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:41:07 -0800 (PST), Art Unwin
wrote:

You must read and understant the "electromagnetic properties of
Neutrinos"
which is up to date.

"Because neutrinos are very weakly interacting, neutrino detectors
must be very large in order to detect a significant number of
neutrinos."

It would seem that the detector (and the corresponding transmitter) of
neutrinos would have to be larger than a shoe box, or two. In fact,
the size of CERN (that is, afterall, why they built it) which is
"with a diameter of 2 kilometres built in a tunnel"
would scarce lift the S-Meter off its peg.

Reading about these lazy welfare queens of physics may be entertaining
on a cold winter's night, but throwing a few bajillion in the
fireplace won't add one calorie of warmth.

73's
Richard Clark, KB7QHC

On Nov 9, 1:03*pm, "Dave" wrote:
"Art Unwin" wrote in message

...
On Nov 9, 4:51 am, "Dave" wrote:

For instance I easily can see the updraft of moisture also including
neutrinos
which becomes a lightning discharge as the moisture changes in
temperature and forming ice
where the neutrinos clump and return to earth in a strike containing a
magnetic field which can be seen asd totally disabling any compass
needle
as well as the
circular currents created to form tornadoes and whirlpools just as
eddy currfents are created.

now that will put some researchers out on their buns after a lifes worth of
work studying lighting as electrons. *its only neutrinos, they have been
barking up the wrong tree all along, the first 'masters' studied lightning
and static electricity they understood it to be movement of electrons, but
they were all wrong. *even gauss must be wrong now since his fields are
based on the same static charges caused by electrons and protrons.
neutrinos have no charge, their motion can not cause a magnetic field, nor
do they cause tornadoes. *thanks for a good laugh on an otherwise dull day.

David
Pull yourself together.
Neutrons ARE a form of electrons. (leptons)
Neutrons are not within the arbitrary boundary provided by Gauss
Neutrons DO contain charge
It is assumed there are anti neutrons because they are suspected of
being rotating dipoles
this because they have a magnetic field
Yes they do have a magnetic field
They are attracted to diamagnetic materials as free electrons where
they do not become absorbed.
Detectors were placed underground on the ASSUMPTION that they passed
thru earth without stopping
Updrafts in storms suck up diamagnetic materials which include
neutrinos, frogs and the like
Take away the moisture that they rest upon until the resting density
is high whence they return to the Earth
mainly a diamagnetic material.
And it goes on and on.
Please read up on the properties of Neutrons as there has been a lot
found out in Japan, U.S. and other places
in the last few years that have turned the info on Neutrons on its
head.
Old books are just not up to date
Regards
Art
Lightning strikes or the descent of charged particles will send nearby
magnets haywire.
Detectors of heavy water are large in area because the size/mass of
neutrinos is so small.
Cern is applying high speed to neutrinos purely to obtain an impact of
such power that it will
provide details

Art Unwin wrote:

Pull yourself together.

Apparently easier said then done.


Neutrons ARE a form of electrons. (leptons)

snip crap

neutron: classification baryon, electric charge 0

neutrino: elementary particle, electric charge 0

electron: elementary particle, electric charge 1.6 X 10-19 C

proton: classification baryon, electric charge 1.6 X 10-19 C

--
Jim Pennino

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On Nov 9, 7:15*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
Pull yourself together.

Apparently easier said then done.

Neutrons ARE a form of electrons. (leptons)

snip crap

neutron: classification baryon, electric charge 0

neutrino: elementary particle, electric charge 0

electron: elementary particle, electric charge 1.6 X 10-19 C

proton: classification baryon, electric charge 1.6 X 10-19 C

--
Jim Pennino

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Jim, where does this information come from?. To my unqualified mind it
appears to be some what dated
possibly back to the the time that neutrnos was considered to be
without mass!
Art

Art Unwin wrote:
On Nov 9, 7:15Â*pm, wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:
Pull yourself together.

Apparently easier said then done.

Neutrons ARE a form of electrons. (leptons)

snip crap

neutron: classification baryon, electric charge 0

neutrino: elementary particle, electric charge 0

electron: elementary particle, electric charge 1.6 X 10-19 C

proton: classification baryon, electric charge 1.6 X 10-19 C

--
Jim Pennino

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Jim, where does this information come from?. To my unqualified mind it
appears to be some what dated
possibly back to the the time that neutrnos was considered to be
without mass!
Art

Just about anywhere one would care to look.

None of the above information has changed in the slightest since many
decades before the 1998 Super-Kamiokande neutrino detector results.


--
Jim Pennino

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In article ,
wrote:
Art Unwin wrote:

Pull yourself together.

Apparently easier said then done.

Neutrons ARE a form of electrons. (leptons)

snip crap

neutron: classification baryon, electric charge 0

neutrino: elementary particle, electric charge 0

electron: elementary particle, electric charge 1.6 X 10-19 C

proton: classification baryon, electric charge 1.6 X 10-19 C

I wonder if Art meant to say "Neutrinos ARE a form of electrons.
(leptons)".

That would be closer to the truth than what was actually quoted above,
in that electrons and neutrinos are both leptons.

It's still incorrect, though, according to the definitions I've read.
Although neutrinos and electrons are both leptons, that doesn't mean
that "neutrinos are a form of electrons".

By analogy: dogs and cats are both mammals. That doesn't mean that
dogs are a type of cat, or that cats are a type of dog.

For what it's worth - I have seen no evidence at all to indicate that
flows of neutrinos have anything whatsoever to do with the behavior of
antennas or with the transfer of electromagnetic energy from/to
antennas and/or free space.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
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