"Art Unwin" wrote in message
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Nope
You have the solution in your own hands where you have total control
if you are able to use a antenna computer program.Many on this group
have an aversion to computers and thus rely on other means which puts
control
in book authors. If you have a similar aversion thats O.K.

yeah, right... i am an author, and i also use computers, where does that put
me? EVERYONE on this group must use a computer... kind of hard to use
newsgroups like this without a computer.

For those who can use a computer they can determine for themselves if
antenna programs can be trusted or not.

no they can't... not unless they have a sophisticated test setup to do fill
size models and measurements to compare predicted with actual results. YOU
don't even have that art, so how can you be so sure that the programs are
doing what you think they are doing?