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Old March 18th 04, 01:18 AM
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Old Ed wrote:
But we were discussing the 130 footer, used on 30m.
If you can rotate that one, I'm impressed.


Actually, I can rotate that 130 ft dipole. I live on a
triangular shaped lot so I can rotate it about 60 degrees
from either end. Presently, I have it oriented so the cloverleaf
lobes point toward the world's land masses on the higher bands.
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Old March 18th 04, 04:41 AM
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Ahhh, enigmatic as usual! ;-) But let me guess:

Do you have alternate attachment points for one or both end(s)
of the antenna, and transfer said end(s) manually from one
attachment to the other?

If so, I would probably call the process "limited re-orientation"
or some such, vs. "rotation." But it's your antenna, so you get to
call it whatever you'd like.

And I guess there's no joy on modelling the average gain of
said antenna over azimuth. Oh well, it was a nice thought. 8-(

Good DX es 73, Ed


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Old Ed wrote:
But we were discussing the 130 footer, used on 30m.
If you can rotate that one, I'm impressed.


Actually, I can rotate that 130 ft dipole. I live on a
triangular shaped lot so I can rotate it about 60 degrees
from either end. Presently, I have it oriented so the cloverleaf
lobes point toward the world's land masses on the higher bands.
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Old Ed wrote:
Do you have alternate attachment points for one or both end(s)
of the antenna, and transfer said end(s) manually from one
attachment to the other?


I have three poles arranged roughly in a triangle. My antenna has
quick disconnects on each end. It takes maybe three minutes to
rotate the antenna by 60 degrees.

And I guess there's no joy on modelling the average gain of
said antenna over azimuth. Oh well, it was a nice thought. 8-(


I offered to publish the azimuthal radiation pattern so you can
be the one to waste your time adding up 360 gains.
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Old March 18th 04, 05:03 PM
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 08:42:03 -0600, Cecil Moore
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I offered to publish the azimuthal radiation pattern so you can
be the one to waste your time adding up 360 gains.


Cecil,

If you wish you can send me the *.ez file and I'll run it with
MultiNec using the EZNEC engine. As MultiNec is an Excel worksheet it
is very easy to set up an unused cell to give the average gain of a
polar plot.

Or if you wish you can do it youself. MultiNec can be downloaded at:
http://www.qsl.net/ac6la/

73
Danny, K6MHE


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Old March 18th 04, 06:29 PM
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Dan Richardson wrote:
If you wish you can send me the *.ez file and I'll run it with
MultiNec using the EZNEC engine.


Hi Danny,
I'm at work and the file is at home, but it is just a 130 ft.
dipole, 40 ft. high, used on 10.125 MHz over average ground.

The wire in EZNEC looks like: 0, 0, 40 130, 0, 40 #14 131
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Old March 18th 04, 08:25 PM
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:29:37 -0600, Cecil Moore
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Dan Richardson wrote:
If you wish you can send me the *.ez file and I'll run it with
MultiNec using the EZNEC engine.


Hi Danny,
I'm at work and the file is at home, but it is just a 130 ft.
dipole, 40 ft. high, used on 10.125 MHz over average ground.

The wire in EZNEC looks like: 0, 0, 40 130, 0, 40 #14 131


Based on the above, the average azimuth gain @ 34º EL is 1.822 dBi

Danny

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Old March 18th 04, 09:54 PM
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Dan Richardson wrote:

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The wire in EZNEC looks like: 0, 0, 40 130, 0, 40 #14 131


Based on the above, the average azimuth gain @ 34º EL is 1.822 dBi


Thanks, that beats the average azimuthal gain for a
ground-mounted 1/4WL monopole.
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Old March 19th 04, 12:06 AM
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Hi Danny -

Thank you very much for your contribution here!
Any chance you could run another 360 azimuth cut
at 26 degrees elevation?

TNX es 73, Ed

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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:29:37 -0600, Cecil Moore
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Dan Richardson wrote:
If you wish you can send me the *.ez file and I'll run it with
MultiNec using the EZNEC engine.


Hi Danny,
I'm at work and the file is at home, but it is just a 130 ft.
dipole, 40 ft. high, used on 10.125 MHz over average ground.

The wire in EZNEC looks like: 0, 0, 40 130, 0, 40 #14 131


Based on the above, the average azimuth gain @ 34º EL is 1.822 dBi

Danny



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