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Ken Slimmer wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:53:38 -0800, D. Stussy wrote:

Stupid idea. Trees grow and thus move over time. They're not stable
long enough for construction purposes.


Mark a spot 4-5 feet up on a tree, 20 years later it will still be 4-5
feet from the ground.

73's
Ken Slimmer, WA0SBU


Bad idea, trees move in the wind even big ones close to the ground. That
puts a lot of extra strain on the tower. If the tree blows over so does
your tower and trees blow over more often than towers. Also it's bad for
the tree and can kill it then it's an even worse guy anchor. I've seen
it done and by people who should have known better and it came to a bad end.
My ham club salvaged some nice hard line off the wreckage though.


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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:39:07 -0500, John Passaneau wrote:

Ken Slimmer wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:53:38 -0800, D. Stussy wrote:

Stupid idea. Trees grow and thus move over time. They're not stable
long enough for construction purposes.


Mark a spot 4-5 feet up on a tree, 20 years later it will still be 4-5
feet from the ground.

73's
Ken Slimmer, WA0SBU


Bad idea, trees move in the wind even big ones close to the ground. That
puts a lot of extra strain on the tower. If the tree blows over so does
your tower and trees blow over more often than towers. Also it's bad for
the tree and can kill it then it's an even worse guy anchor. I've seen
it done and by people who should have known better and it came to a bad
end. My ham club salvaged some nice hard line off the wreckage though.


John Passaneau W3JXP


Hi John;
I wasn't advocating the use of trees as Guy supports for a tower.
They work great as supports for wire antennas. My Boxelders and Oaks
that are 2-3 feet across hardly move in a strong wind. And, no, putting
Eye bolts in a mature tree will not kill it.



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Ken Slimmer, WA0SBU

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"Ken Slimmer" wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:39:07 -0500, John Passaneau wrote:
Ken Slimmer wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:53:38 -0800, D. Stussy wrote:
Stupid idea. Trees grow and thus move over time. They're not stable
long enough for construction purposes.

Mark a spot 4-5 feet up on a tree, 20 years later it will still be 4-5
feet from the ground.

73's
Ken Slimmer, WA0SBU


Bad idea, trees move in the wind even big ones close to the ground.

That
puts a lot of extra strain on the tower. If the tree blows over so does
your tower and trees blow over more often than towers. Also it's bad

for
the tree and can kill it then it's an even worse guy anchor. I've seen
it done and by people who should have known better and it came to a bad
end. My ham club salvaged some nice hard line off the wreckage though.


I wasn't advocating the use of trees as Guy supports for a tower.


No, but the OP of the thread did - a 50' tower.


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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:33:36 -0800, D. Stussy wrote:

"Ken Slimmer" wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:39:07 -0500, John Passaneau wrote:
Ken Slimmer wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:53:38 -0800, D. Stussy wrote:
Stupid idea. Trees grow and thus move over time. They're not
stable long enough for construction purposes.

Mark a spot 4-5 feet up on a tree, 20 years later it will still be
4-5 feet from the ground.

73's
Ken Slimmer, WA0SBU

Bad idea, trees move in the wind even big ones close to the ground.

That
puts a lot of extra strain on the tower. If the tree blows over so
does your tower and trees blow over more often than towers. Also it's
bad

for
the tree and can kill it then it's an even worse guy anchor. I've
seen it done and by people who should have known better and it came
to a bad end. My ham club salvaged some nice hard line off the
wreckage though.


I wasn't advocating the use of trees as Guy supports for a tower.


No, but the OP of the thread did - a 50' tower.


I called the tree police, they said unless you could prove he was abusing
his tree's there was little they could do about it. :-)

Have a great day
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:33:36 -0800, D. Stussy wrote:
"Ken Slimmer" wrote in message

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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:39:07 -0500, John Passaneau wrote:
Ken Slimmer wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:53:38 -0800, D. Stussy wrote:
Stupid idea. Trees grow and thus move over time. They're not
stable long enough for construction purposes.

Mark a spot 4-5 feet up on a tree, 20 years later it will still be
4-5 feet from the ground.

Bad idea, trees move in the wind even big ones close to the ground.

That
puts a lot of extra strain on the tower. If the tree blows over so
does your tower and trees blow over more often than towers. Also

it's
bad for
the tree and can kill it then it's an even worse guy anchor. I've
seen it done and by people who should have known better and it came
to a bad end. My ham club salvaged some nice hard line off the
wreckage though.

I wasn't advocating the use of trees as Guy supports for a tower.


No, but the OP of the thread did - a 50' tower.


I called the tree police, they said unless you could prove he was abusing
his tree's there was little they could do about it. :-)


Did you also call the tower police to see if he was abusing the tower?




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