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On Apr 23, 8:43*pm, Roy Lewallen wrote:
Jim Lux wrote: Roy Lewallen wrote: Absolutely true. And it can't handle things like patch antennas or antennas printed on a PCB. NEC does OK at microstrip patches with air dielectric (or foam with very low permittivity). *I've used it to model an array of 9 patches and the port to port coupling calculated by NEC and measured by a VNA were pretty close (within measurement uncertainty). Yes, I meant patch antennas with common dielectrics, which are far more common. It's of course the dielectric that NEC can't account for. I've designed quite a few antennas on PCB material, but use a fudge factor based on comparison between measured and EZNEC results of a simple antenna near the same frequency. This gets me pretty close, but even this approach wouldn't be adequate if field coupling through the dielectric is significant. Exactly. Maxwells law application is solely on the condition of all forces be accounted for such that the summation is equal zero. Omission of consideration of a force that is present prevents the summation from equaling zero which means the creation of an error. Very simple my dear Watson. This is tantamount to creating an abitrary border where one omits recording the full amount of flux created. Regards Art It's pretty darn slow at this, though (lots and lots of wires in each patch), I used lumped loads for the matching network model (capacitive probe feed) For large models, calculation time goes up as the cube of the number of segments, so big models can get slow all right. However, EZNEC has undergone a pretty dramatic speed improvement over time as various code substitutions and updated compilers have been used, and it's much, much faster than older NEC compilations. And some versions of NEC have been similarly updated, so people using different NEC compilations can experience pretty different calculation speeds. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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