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Cecil Moore wrote:
Jim Kelley wrote: Presumably there is a lower limit to the number of turns the coil would have to have, or an upper limit to the pitch angle, in order to behave as described - a helical sheath. Tesla coils usually have at least a few hundred turns wound closely together, and often operate at wavelengths considerably longer that 75 meters. One could easily argue that 30 turns do not a Tesla coil make, in which case Eq. 32 would not apply. Dr. Corum says that it behaves as a helical sheath when it is electrically longer than 15 degrees (0.04WL). The frequency doesn't matter - just the electrical length. :-) And obviously it's electrical length depends on Vp, which depends on whether it behaves as a helical sheath. Note that the title of the paper is: "RF Coils, Helical Resonators and Voltage Magnification by Coherent Spatial Modes". "Tesla coil" does not even appear in the title. Are you trying to imply that the paper isn't about Tesla coils? In Dr. Corum's paper, take a look at "Figure 2, A capacitively tuned distributed resonator" and tell us how it differs from a 75m mobile antenna with a top hat. Hopefully you're not serious. Because, borrowing from Richard Clark, it's a 'cartoon'. The 1/4WL self-resonant frequency for a 75m Texas Bugcatcher coil has been measured at ~6.5 MHz where it is known to be electrically 90 degrees long. Why does anyone have a problem with it being electrically 40 degrees long on 4 MHz? Maybe it is. I happen to think that because of its simplicity, it's an attractive notion. But it's not clear to me that the article applies to coils with these parameters, and I haven't seen any (reputable) empirical evidence to support it. In "Fields and Waves ...", by Ramo and Whinnery, the analysis of a helical sheath assumes an infinitely long helical sheath for the purpose of eliminating reflections. Does that ring a bell? Hint: The current on a standing-wave antenna cannot be used to measure phase shift or delay. Yet, that is exactly what w8ji and w7el tried to do. What do you suppose Corum^2 meant when they wrote "Experimentally, the wave velocity and velocity factor may be measured by determining the axial length of the standing wave pattern on the helical structure"? I once turned my 75m mobile Texas Bugcatcher system into a Tesla coil. I had a latch to which I could connect the top ball of the antenna when I needed to lean it over for more clearence. I was at a hamfest at night and had forgotten I had the antenna latched down. I started transmitting and my friend told me I was drawing a two-inch arc from the tip of my antenna to the pickup body. It was indeed "Voltage Magnification by Coherent Spatial Modes". No offense, but some of their work seems aimed squarely at the 'Art Bell' crowd. Describing constructive interference as "voltage magnification" is an example. It's as if they were publishing in the 19th century. ac6xg |
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